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Conspiracy Theories Express your opinion on some alarming, intriguing, or even plain wacky theories.

View Poll Results: What is your opinion on 911
It was done by Bin Laden and his people alone 10 58.82%
The Bush administration is involved. 1 5.88%
The Bush administration is complicit 4 23.53%
Answer 2 or 3 But we will never learn enough,so i think its a waste of time. 2 11.76%
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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1) I don't know. Maybe I'm being unrealistic. Maybe not.
2) I may be wrong, but I believe the surveillance cameras where I work are live video cameras that project to the Security office, where there are monitors showing each view. Are you telling me we don't have the same equipment (or better) at the PENTAGON???
Yes.
The "video shots" I've seen are from a camera that monitors who drives in and out. It's supposed to take pictures of people in vehicles - probably triggered by those vehicles' motion. Gee, what a surprise that it doesn't show an airplane.
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Old 12-09-2006, 01:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes.
The "video shots" I've seen are from a camera that monitors who drives in and out. It's supposed to take pictures of people in vehicles - probably triggered by those vehicles' motion. Gee, what a surprise that it doesn't show an airplane.
Sigh. I will never know then.
Old 12-09-2006, 04:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Unbelievable! Simply unbelievable

If you actually wanted to, you could do a "SEARCH" and see that all that crap has been discussed here already, and all of those accusations have been shown for what they are: Silly and unsubstantiated.

And still no answers to any of the fundamental questions...
I havent got a clue what you mean Jefferson,you just show up with terms of crap ,not giving answers to any questions and come with a couple of stupid questions,then if i still take the effort to answer some
You again pop up ,TOTALLY IGNORING i have answered a few of your questions I aint gonna aanswer anymore of your STUPID questions. READ!!
So consider it the last time i do a one way discussion with you
From now on i will ignore you
DONT BOTHER!!!

And high speed now you too????
OF COURSE THERE FLEW PLANES IN THE WTC!!


LOOK, READ, WAKE UP, Something is wrong and i dont know the right version too!! Only that the official is bull
Funny to see that so many have a comment ready here without even LOOKING at the question list (DOWLOADED ONCE)
GUESS THAT GIVES ALL A WELL FUNDED OPINION!!!!
Was the rest of your opinion also that quickly formed? LOL
Mine took months...
The time has come, for each and everyone, to decide.., if you're gonna be part of the problem., or part of the solution..!!

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Old 12-09-2006, 04:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I havent got a clue what you mean Jefferson,you just show up with terms of crap ,not giving answers to any questions and come with a couple of stupid questions,then if i still take the effort to answer some
You again pop up ,TOTALLY IGNORING i have answered a few of your questions I aint gonna aanswer anymore of your STUPID questions. READ!!
So consider it the last time i do a one way discussion with you
From now on i will ignore you
DONT BOTHER!!!

And high speed now you too????
OF COURSE THERE FLEW PLANES IN THE WTC!!
Funny to see all these people with comments with out looking at the questions!!!!!! (downloaded once!!)

LOOK, READ, WAKE UP, Something is wrong and i dont know the right version too!! Only that the official is bull
Funny to see that so many have a comment ready here without even LOOKING at the question list (DOWLOADED ONCE)
GUESS THAT GIVES ALL A WELL FUNDED OPINION!!!!
Was the rest of your opinion also that quickly formed? LOL
I'll say it just one more time: READ THE PREVIOUS THREADS IN THIS SUB-FORUM.

Maybe YOU feel like having a fight, but there have already been a whole bunch of them on this forum. If you want to learn about it, just read them.

I, for one, am really not interested in debating/discussing this with yet another closed-minded person who is absolutely sure the American government "pulled something off" here. It's like talking to a Jehova's Witness.
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The doubt is about a plane hitting the Pentagon,NOT THE WTC
Why were all camera's out of work?,(same as on all the other places) there are hundreds, and why within minutes(standin ready) petrol station owners had to deliver their security camera's to the CIA?,and where not allowed to speak about what was on it?, and why did the plane(?) made a violent turn to hit the Pentagon at a empty place?,exactly opposite rumsfeld!,why did the anti missile defence not work?.why there was no debri? no airplane chairs?,no body?,s,no engine tail? , no wings? NOTHING !! Only some small pieces.why could NOT 1 dog even find a drip of blood???,how come that the plane was much to big for such a small opening.?? Why did many people never see a plane but heard a wooosh,why are all these confiscated video images never returned or released?
These are just some questions out of my head but the list's are endless, and full with even better questions.
After all even the mayor of Shanksville who was at the sight as one of the first said "there was nothing but a hole in the ground..."
Again no debri no this no that no nothing!!

Any body that seriously and unbiassed really DIVES whole heartedly in this
issue comes out with numerous totally unexplanable questions.Garanteed!!
Dont look at the implications like.... BUT THAT WOULD MEAN....!
Only look at the facts and see what the official answers are on these..
Then let you logic work! WTC 7 is a good place to start.
I have read here and everywhere and this thing hasnt even begun to lift its curtains yet,what is behind there i would not know..
Sometimes i wonder if i ever will..



The time has come, for each and everyone, to decide.., if you're gonna be part of the problem., or part of the solution..!!

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What did the government do with all the people that were supposedly on those planes?

What did they do with the planes that supposedly did NOT fly into the WTC Towers and the Pentagon?

How did the government manage to spend MONTHS rigging the WTC Towers for implosion without ANYBODY noticing?

How did the government "rig" all those videos that show planes flying into the WTC Towers?



You are not the ones who should be ONLY asking questions. You should be ANSWERING some staggering questions. And you're not.
I'm not finding the suggestion that there were no planes flying into the twin towers in the two text documents Prototype posted. So it might be he's not suggesting the planes were not commercial planes. Hence no need to explain where the people went from the flights. (although I'm thinking about how the EPA didn't care enough about the citizens of NYC to issue the real air quality report post 9/11... or was that someone in the administration who doctored the report?)

I was noting the discrepancy between the damage to the Pentagon and the size of the jetliner that flew into it. Had surveillance tapes been available that definitely showed me the plane hitting the building, I'd shut up and chalk it up to me not understanding physics. And I'd be in a better position to say, "look here: it really was a plane. I don't get why there wasn't more damage, but it really was a plane."

As for rigging the building, I have read that there were fire drills and other events in the WTC buildings before 9/11, which might give someone time to set a few charges, but not much.

I'm still looking for the 400+ questions the 9/11 families posed the 9/11 Commission (as mentioned in part 2 of the text docs in the first post here on DTT). Haven't found them....

Did find this interesting website that lists people who want the investigation re-opened: Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
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Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Commercial pilot for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years, flying 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777 ’s. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines airplanes that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

Article 7/17/05: "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." … Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 270 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."…

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying." The Arctic Beacon


Audio Interview 9/16/04: Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon. "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous...

It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. … The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile." Index of /911/underground
We might ask Capt. Wittenberg what he thinks happened to the people on Flight 77 then.
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Yep i have read that report too, there's more aviation people saying the same thing.German ministers say it is a set up,A British(former) minister, Then there's professors,Several international Arhitects,Someone high up in the former Reagan admin.And even more who dont dare or arent allowed to speak up.
There's are many fire man talking about hearing bombs that they werent even allowed in the room the "hearings" took place would you believe.
The best first hand witnesses!
Then shipping all rubble to india? In guarded convoy's?? etc..
There's no end to the questions and not a single reasonable answer other as already told.It stinks..
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Yep i have read that report too, there's more aviation people saying the same thing.German ministers say it is a set up,A British(former) minister, Then there's professors,Several international Arhitects,Someone high up in the former Reagan admin.And even more who dont dare or arent allowed to speak up.
There's are many fire man talking about hearing bombs that they werent even allowed in the room the "hearings" took place would you believe.
The best first hand witnesses!
Then shipping all rubble to india? In guarded convoy's?? etc..
There's no end to the questions and not a single reasonable answer other as already told.It stinks..
So the Germans and British (or at least one or two of them) are sayinig it was a set-up. Well, I guess that settles it.


I want you to answer the following question: What happened to Flight 77?
- Where are the passengers?
- Where is the Boeing 757?
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So the Germans and British (or at least one or two of them) are sayinig it was a set-up. Well, I guess that settles it.

Pssst..It said:
"aviation people saying the same thing.German ministers say it is a set up,A British(former) minister, Then there's professors,Several international Arhitects,Someone high up in the former Reagan admin.(father of "regonomics), fireman..

That's more then 66% missed.... BAD for a "Truthseeker" LOL And then.......


I want you to answer the following question: What happened to Flight 77?
- Where are the passengers?
- Where is the Boeing 757?

I have seen some stubborn people but you beat em all jefferson

You just keep ignoring the questions,or my anser to yours even(!)
Simply continue launching your own, as if i have to know everything ....(or would react,after that). And dont ever stop calling all the
unanswered questions crap ,(why should you?You have outstanding 100% honest news coverage!!! And at least it is always a constructive begin of an argument!) You just firmly keep lauching yours.And never look into anything, dont bother.Just keep discussing the things you dont have the patience to read 2 text files about.(Great attitude on a truth forum!)
I bet you have a very well funded opinion about everything but i aint interested in your tunnel vision no more. So if you really can't stop launching your own questions, i suggest you make a 911 post of your own! I hope i can successfully avoid you from now on.


The time has come, for each and everyone, to decide.., if you're gonna be part of the problem., or part of the solution..!!

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You know we all have questions that nobody is willing to answer. However, those that believe that the government conspired in the 9/11 attacks and that the damage done was not done by hijackers have ignored all questions. Well yes, the government has ignored some, others they have answered.

Until such time as the conspiracy theoriests answer questions like what happened to the passengers on Flight 77 or how do they explain a WTC engineer calling the Fire Department requesting a structural engineer from the 78 floor of WTC 1, because he saw structural damage, their credibility is severely lacking. These are just a few of the loop holes that they continue to ignore.

They want answers, well they should provide answers as well.

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