Defending the Truth

And still...

Baseless accusations and speculation, BUT NO EXPLANATION AS TO WHERE FLIGHT 77, AND ITS PASSENGERS, DISAPPEARED TO.

Thank you.

If the evidence does not match the report, the government should be called on it. No explanation need be given by the ones finding the holes in the report.

For example, there is a report online by Barbara Honegger, M.S., Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School (1995−present). In the introduction she states:

She goes on from there, giving evidence of stopped watches in addition to the stopped clocks, plus other evidence and incidents. I have yet to see a picture of these, but if they exist, if the clocks really stopped prior to the time the plane hit, then there is a problem with the 9/11 commission report, and with the official story. I suggest you read her report for yourself.

And again, those finding flaws in the report are NOT obligated to explain what happened. In my opinion, the only thing required is to demand the investigation be reopened with impartial members. Why Americans aren't taking to the street to demand this is beyond me.

For all the people that believe there was a conspiracy re garding 9/11....
This is the same un educated attitude and class of people that believes in Flying Saucers taking
people away and performing experiments on them. Ever notice that this group
thrives south of the Mason Dixon line???? Get a life and some new brain cells!!!

So is "Oh please" a play on "Ohdear?"

Welcome to the forums!

My main arguments to these conspiracy theories are:

-Where are the planes if they did not take down the towers
-Why is it that Kerry and Kennedy didn't jump all over these theories?

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Originally Posted by Katczinsky So is "Oh please" a play on "Ohdear?"

I wonder the same thing, Kat!!!

Well the new member is not kin to me, but maybe we can become friends. Any kin would have my "surname" and not my first name...

So maybe, someday, "YesDear" will join us!

Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery, right?

Oh Please, I welcome you to the forums,

Oh Dear!

I would not put these people in the "uneducated attitude and class of people that believes in Flying Saucers", nor are they all south of the Mason Dixon line:

Rep. Curt Weldon – Vice Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. Ten-term Republican Congressman from Pennsylvania.

Senator Max Cleland – Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned in December 2003. Currently serves on the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. U.S. Senator from Georgia 1996 - 2002. Secretary of State of Georgia 1982 - 1996. Administrator of the U.S. Veterans Administration 1977 - 1981. Captain, U.S. Army awarded Silver Star and Bronze Star for bravery in Viet Nam. Triple amputee from war injuries.

Senator Bob Graham – Former U.S. Senator from Florida 1987 - 2005. Former Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Co-Chairman of the Joint House-Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (JICI) that investigated the events of 9/11. Former Governor of Florida 1979 - 1986

Senator Mark Dayton – Senate Committee on Armed Services, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Services. U.S. Senator from Minnesota.

Louis Freeh – Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001. Former U.S. District Court Judge for the Southern District of New York, appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Former Deputy United States Attorney in New York. Former FBI agent. Former officer in the United States Army JAG Corps Reserve.

Edward L. Peck – Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under Ronald Reagan. Former Deputy Coordinator, Covert Intelligence Programs at the State Department. U.S. Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq (1977 - 1980). 32-year veteran of the Foreign Service.

Morton Goulder – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Warning under Presidents Nixon, Ford, and Carter (1973 - 1977). Founder of Sanders Associates.

Morgan Reynolds, PhD – Chief Economist, U.S. Department of Labor under George W. Bush 2001 - 2002. Former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis. Professor Emeritus, Economics, Texas A&M University.

Paul Craig Roberts, PhD – Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan, "Father of Reaganomics", Former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. Currently Chairman of the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute.

Catherine Austin Fitts – Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush. Former Managing Director and Member of the Board of Wall Street investment bank, Dillon, Read & Co

John Loftus – Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. Former U.S. Army Intelligence officer. Currently author and frequent media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services.

George Kenney – Former career Foreign Service Officer, serving as Yugoslav desk officer at the State Department headquarters in Washington, DC. Resigned his commission in 1991 over US policy towards the Yugoslav conflict. Then served as consultant in residence at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Currently consultant and commentator on foreign affairs and current events.

Fred Burks – Former State Department Interpreter for Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Vice Presidents Dick Cheney and Al Gore, Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright. 18-year State Department career.

J. Michael Springman – Former career Foreign Service Officer with the State Department and the International Foreign Trade Administration of the Commerce Department. Former Consular Officer in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where he supervised the issuance of visas. 20-year Federal Government career.

Daniel Ellsberg, PhD – Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense. Former State Department envoy to Viet Nam. While working for the government, Ellsberg attained the ultimate civil service grade of GS-18, equivalent to a Major General. Former U.S. Marine Corps officer. Former military analyst for the Rand Corporation. Most well known for leaking the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times in 1971.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire – Former Deputy Attorney General, State of Pennsylvania.

Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Commanding General of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense during the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart). Appointed by President George H.W. Bush to serve on the American Battle Monuments Commission (1990 - 1994), and on the 1992 Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces. From 1990 through 1994, he served as Military Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C.

Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).

Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. 34-year Air Force career.

Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project. 30-year Army career

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Commercial pilot for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years, flying 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777 ’s. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines airplanes that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran.

Barbara Honegger – Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School, the U.S. Navy’s advanced science, technology and national security affairs university (1995 - present). White House Policy Analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant to President Ronald Reagan (1981 - 1983).

Lt. Col. Stephen L. Butler, EdD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute. Served as a B-52 Radar Navigator in the Gulf War. 24-year Air Force career.

Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, U.S. Army Reserve – Commander of Special Troops Battalion, 9th Theater Support Command. Former Chief of the Army’s Controlled HUMINT (Human Intelligence) Program, overseeing Army Intelligence and Security Command’s global controlled HUMINT efforts. A former member of the Able Danger data mining program that targeted Al Qaeda’s global structure. Awarded the Bronze Star for bravery. 23-year military intelligence career.

Capt. Scott J. Phillpott, U.S. Navy – Commanding Officer of the guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf. Former head of the Able Danger data mining program that targeted Al Qaeda’s global structure. Former commanding officer of the frigate USS Estocin. Former Commanding Officer of the coastal patrol ship USS Typhoon. U.S. Naval Academy graduate. Awards include the Legion of Merit, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, three Meritorious Service Medals, the Joint Service Commendation Medal, two Navy Commendation Medals, and the Navy Achievement Medal. 23 years of Navy service.

Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency. Former military attaché in China. 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence. Currently, professor of history and international relations at the University of Maryland.

Major Scott Ritter, U.S. Marine Corps – Former Marine Corps Intelligence Officer and Chief Weapons Inspector for the United Nations Special Commission in Iraq 1991 - 1998.

Capt. Gregory M. Zeigler, PhD, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer

Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Army Intelligence officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

This list is from Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report and I only went down about half the page. I suggest you go to the website to read what each has to say.

1) Why did WTC building 7 collapsed if it was NOT hit by any plane?

2) Where's the evidence that a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon and in Penn.? (You have to include in your answer high resolution pics CLEARLY showing debris of a Boeing 757)

3) How did fire shattered the towers, when no steel-frame building has ever been brought down by it?

For more questions like these in regards to 9-11 go to hugequestions.com

Because the official story makes ZERO sense.

Welcome to the boards allheart!

1) Combination of fire and debris from two huge ass buildings that collapsed right next to tower 7, that caused stuctural damage to the building.




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3) That is not true. In fact in 2001 three buildings collapsed in just one day.