waitingtables

You guys don't have anything to worry about. Gay guys aren't out there sexually assaulting straight men. It is usually the other way around.

pensacola_niceman

None that I was aware of. No dicks in the butt at the dead night either.

pensacola_niceman

Everybody know that all a straight man has to do is bend over and a 100 gay guys come out nowhere with raging hard-ons. Don't be naive enough to not accept this as truth.

fxashun

Gays don't have to assault anyone. There are too many gays out there just giving it out for that to be necessary.

Straight men rape because most of the more desirable women know that they are desirable and aren't out just giving pu$$y away like water at a marathon. By the time you've found a clean desirable piece of ass you are out a lot of time and money and aggravation. If I wanted screw a guy, all you gotta do is take your profile off of private and go on any chat site. The only way to get more PM's is to be a 15 year old girl.

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waitingtables

Rape is not about sex, it's about power and violence. Where do you come up with this crap? Do you read what you say after you type it? To you it's a crime of convenience, just getting what you want without putting in the effort. That is the most screwed up thing I've ever heard. Your lack of awareness of anything to do with women is actually frightening. And your analyses of the situations are more often that not, serioulsy off the mark.

fxashun

I didn't say anything about rape. But the power and violence might be the reason for some rapes, others are simply because they want sex. Saying it is about violence and power flies in the face of that "hypothetical" on that other thread. The guy simply drugged the chick, screwed her, and left no evidence. Doesn't sound very violent or anything.

Sometimes its simply a case of desirable women are hard to come by. And "some" men will rape one rather than jump through the hoops to try and get one of them.

For some men, rape IS a crime of convenience. What part of that is wrong? Instead of thinking that I don't know women, in this case, you are showing that you don't know some men.

Here's a great quote that spells out the differences in our points of view.
"Rape is a crime of the heart for the victim, but it is a crime of convenience for the perpetrator," said Cooper.


Men just think differently than women...
Men rated intercourse against the woman's wishes as significantly more justifiable when the woman initiated the date, when the man paid and when the couple went to the man's apartment.
UCLA researchers posed similar questions to teens. A high percentage of the male teens felt that forced sex was acceptable if the woman said yes and then changed her mind (54%), if he spent a lot of money on her (39%), if she "led him on" (54%), and if he is so turned on that he thinks he can't stop (36%).

I'm not excusing it, just pointing out a fact of the matter.

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waitingtables

You didn't say anything about rape? I quoted your post in my post.

fxashun

My bad, I was posting while carrying on a phone conversation.

Now would you relate that to why my point about said "rape" was off base and I don't know women. You don't have to know women to know that some men are very opportunistic when it comes to rape. That's why...Approximately 73% of rape victims know their assailants.
and
83% of rape cases are ages 24 or under.
1 in 4 college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.
1 in 12 males students surveyed had commited acts that met the legal definition of rape. Furthermore, 84% of the men who had commited such acts said what they had done was definitely not rape.
75% of male students and 55% of female students involved in acquintance rape had been drinking or using drugs.

I was once similarly chastised for saying women ought to watch out and be proactive in preventing rapes. The statistics above show that to be very prudent advice. Maybe women need to think more like men in this case. I might save their asses.

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waitingtables

We are both right, as there are different motivations for rape:

Motivation for rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tyrone_det

A lot of the rape stats use broad definitions of "rape" which skews the results.

I don't see many date rape incidents (and by date rape, I mean an alleged rape where the consent issue is gray) around here. Whenever there is one, it usually gets media attention and 1/2 the people think the guy is a rapist and the other half thinks the woman is a liar. We had a case around here (not in my jurisdiction - I can't talk about pending stuff) where a black d.j. was accused of raping a woman in the club. Hell, every week the media gets all sorts of letters and emails about it, with people taking sides.

Its very rare for any rape I investigate to be a "close call" on the consent issue. There are a lot of times it is an acquaintance, but its usually pretty damn clear that the acquaintance didn't have consent.

I can't recall any rapist who I thought was picking victims because he thought they were hot. They usually pick victims because they are easy targets.

The wikipedia article cited was interesting, but if I catch a rapist, his motivation is the least of my worries. I want to be sure he goes to jail.