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Drugs and Alcohol Debate and defend your political beliefs of whether or not some drugs should be illegal or legalized.

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Old 09-22-2006, 02:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You're all a bunch of stoners. I'm surrounded by a bunch of tokers.
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Surprised me??? Yes and no. I could see a bass playing guy like you having a smoke. But I am surprised that you would grow your own and it certainly does differ from the standard conservative point of view. Ending marijuana prohibition is viewed as a liberal ideal I would say.

I agree with you 200% procent though; Marijuana should be regulated.
Like I said above, there are a lot more people who take a toke than you would imagine and a lot of them are conservative minded. Growing my own for personal use is also a lot more common than you would imagine, especially in rural areas.
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You're all a bunch of stoners. I'm surrounded by a bunch of tokers.
I use it for medical reasons.
Old 09-23-2006, 05:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Like I said above, there are a lot more people who take a toke than you would imagine and a lot of them are conservative minded. Growing my own for personal use is also a lot more common than you would imagine, especially in rural areas.
Doesn't surprise me, I know lots of ex-hippes they are a lot less liberal than you would think...
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Doesn't surprise me, I know lots of ex-hippes they are a lot less liberal than you would think...
I know also lots of ex-hippes, they got greedy and to wrapped up in the money game, basically sold their souls!

Shit man, f**k ever-thin got me a tax break, thank ya Bush.
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There are a lot more conservatives who smoke weed than you can imagine.
Well legalizing those kinds of things actually used to be a Goldwater-conservative view, and Goldwater conservatism used to dominate Republican politics for a while until neo-conservatism showed up. Now the Republicans are demonstrating the complete opposite and probably wouldn't let Goldwater in their convention if he were around. Now, with the Republican Party, Goldwater and Reagan conservatism seems to just be something that gets them fame by working up those emotions to get support for their, ironically, big government policies.
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Well legalizing those kinds of things actually used to be a Goldwater-conservative view, and Goldwater conservatism used to dominate Republican politics for a while until neo-conservatism showed up. Now the Republicans are demonstrating the complete opposite and probably wouldn't let Goldwater in their convention if he were around. Now, with the Republican Party, Goldwater and Reagan conservatism seems to just be something that gets them fame by working up those emotions to get support for their, ironically, big government policies.
I'm not a republican or a democrat member. The only reason the republicans have increased the role of government is because they had to. The war and illegal immigration.
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I'm not a republican or a democrat member. The only reason the republicans have increased the role of government is because they had to. The war and illegal immigration.
They've increased the role of the government across the board, not just on security. I'm talking they're getting involved with religion, with gay marriage, some want to ban gay sex, a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, consistently giving large corporate handouts, etc. Its across the board. Goldwater would now be considered a liberal.
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They've increased the role of the government across the board, not just on security. I'm talking they're getting involved with religion, with gay marriage, some want to ban gay sex, a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, consistently giving large corporate handouts, etc. Its across the board. Goldwater would now be considered a liberal.
The government is not getting involved with religion. They are fighting the ACLU who is trying to ban all forms of religious expression. If they are getting involved, it is to protect this precious freedom of Americans.

Gay marriage has been voted down by every state that has voted on it. It is not the government getting involved, it is the homo lobby who is pushing for it.

I agree with the amendment against flag burning. Corporate handouts as you call them is not a republican thing. Both parties give tax breaks to corporations to promote business expansion.
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