Defending the Truth

Where and when you can buy a legal item is based upon theories about God. That is INSANE.

The fact that you can be armed and die for your country but not legally drink a beer is INSANE!

Yes it is. But you still didn't show how that was related to the drinking age limit.

I think I already addressed this. I know it's insane. But personally I think the more reasonable thing to do is raise the age limit that one can join the military or serve in active combat zones. Not lower the drinking age limit.

It may not be related to the drinking age limit. I wouldn't mind seeing the age of military enrollment raised to 21. But countries that have LOWER age restrictions on alcohol also seem to have less problems with alcohol. Go figure. Just like countries with less religion seem to have lower rates of pedophiles. Go figure.

I don't think that has to do with age limit more than culture. Our culture helps perpetuate our drinking habits. It would remain the same or be worse if we had more people (younger people) doing it.

Different cultures see alcohol in different lights. I know Germany has very relaxed drinking laws (children drink the stuff) but they don't see it as a specialty drink, they just see it as another beverage, and to abuse that beverage would be foolish. Germans are more addicted to coffee anyway.

I'm not sure you understood what I am saying in my post. I am not against alcohol (please, I'm European). I am just a little apprehensive regarding how the US would be able to deal with a lowered drinking age. People living in the US right now between the ages of 18 and 21 would flock to liquor stores and binge drink because it's so easy to do, being available now. Of course, this phenomenon wouldn't last long but in its prime it could seriously damage American lives and society.

As for the Sunday no-purchase thing. Eh, buy it on Saturday. In Europe, most stores are closed on Sundays. Grocery stores, bakeries, clothes stores, malls, pharmacies, etc. so don't complain about a liquor store being closed on a Sunday. Imagine being barred off from all stores on Sundays.

Oh yeah, and I think that if you have proof of being in the Army in the US, then you should be allowed to drink. But only to a certain extent in bars.

I mostly agree with you vivelafrance.

However, on your last comment, I don't really agree. Because I think that would create a number of problems simply because of inequality. First, I think that although it might help recruitment numbers of people under 21, I think any rise in recruitment would be people only joining so they can have a drink legally. That would create a helluva lot of problems that I'm sure the military doesn't need. Also, it will also lead to a bunch of movements in regular society claiming that its not fair that people in the military under 21 get to drink, yet civilians are excluded. Long story short, it would create a big controversy and the civilians that want to drink up will probably get their wish through the political process.

The more reasonable approach would to be just raise the age limit on which someone can serve in a combat zone in the military.

I joined the Navy at 18, 18-20 year olds were allowed to drink (beer only) on base at the Enlisted club. That was few years ago not sure if that is still allowed or not.

Get real it's not like the recruiting posters are going to say
"Join the Navy see the world, legally drink beer before your college buddies"

Being in the states is the only place that you had to worry about being old enough to drink.

What we should have done was made the legal drinking age in the U.S. 16 years, and the legal driving age 21. I think the problem comes from vehicular responsibility more than drinking. Alas, it is too late for that. Although I think the problems, or lack thereof, from lowering or abolishing the legal drinking age would be very different from what people think. I don't believe there would be rashes of teens running out, getting tanked, and then driving Ferraris into oncoming traffic. I do think there would be more problems at social places such as nightclubs (assaults and such).

As for the soldiers fighting but not drinking... The lowering of the age limit would resolve that. But I'd hate to raise the enlistment age, and deprive an already taxed entity of good people due to something arbitrary like "age." Personally, sticking it out through basic is enough of an indicator of responsibility to me...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...ltl=1164829183

Notice the dead line date?

Here!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...ltl=1164829308

Journal of Studies on Alcohol

I hear you dude,we just passed a law allowing beer sells on sunday after 12 pm. but sonce I am not a big drinker( i should be lol) I am not sure about hard liquor sells on sunday..but you can buy beer at 99% of the cash & carry stores.