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Old 12-28-2006, 02:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't think a joint, in and of itself, is as harmful as a typical cigarette.
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However, despite the best efforts of Hevusa, smoking Pot really has been shown to be a "gateway drug" for most people. Perhaps not all, but certainly most.


Here, here, Jefferson to your comment about pot being a gateway drug.

And you know what else I am very ready to make a wager about?

Those who get off the heavier drugs, do not go back to smoking pot then at all. It is like, if they went from pot to crack or crystal meth or something, I doubt that if they are lucky enuf to lick the habit, that they say, "Oh those were the good ol' days, when I did a little wacky tobacky...I will do that again!"

No, Sir, I am sure they stay away from the whole kit and kaboodle at that point!

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm sorry as I lack the knowledge of the negative effects of pot. Some have told me that smoking a joint is like smoking 3 cigarettes..or something along the lines. In that case, does it even more greatly increase the chances of getting lung cancer??

Educate me...I'm not sure.
Just do what Clinton did and don't inhale.
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Just do what Clinton did and don't inhale.
hahaha I absolutely love that quote!
Old 12-31-2006, 01:20 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't think a joint, in and of itself, is as harmful as a typical cigarette.

However, despite the best efforts of Hevusa, smoking Pot really has been shown to be a "gateway drug" for most people. Perhaps not all, but certainly most.

I don't agree. I have known a lot of marijuana users and they are quite satisfied with only using marijuana. They are not junkies or tweakers.

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"We've shown that the marijuana gateway effect is not the best explanation for the link between marijuana use and the use of harder drugs," said Andrew Morral, associate director of RAND's Public Safety and Justice unit and lead author of the study. "An alternative, simpler and more compelling explanation accounts for the pattern of drug use you see in this country, without resort to any gateway effects. While the gateway theory has enjoyed popular acceptance, scientists have always had their doubts. Our study shows that these doubts are justified."
RAND | News Release | RAND Study Casts Doubt on Claims That Marijuana Acts as "Gateway" to the Use of Cocaine and Heroin

The UK finds the same results: Marijuana Research: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug
Canada finds the same results: http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Committee_SenRep.asp?Language=E&Parl=37&Ses=1&comm _id=85#Substantive%20Reports
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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.

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Old 12-31-2006, 01:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Educate me...I'm not sure.
Check out a recent study the Canadian Senate conducted. Page down to "Consequences of chronic use"

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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.

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I've used pot off and on since 1967. I experimented a little in the late 60s and early 70s with other drugs like a lot of people. The only thing I do besides a toke once in a while is beer or a glass of wine and a nice glass of good scotch on the rocks. In fact, I'm gonna have a nice white wine with my Dungenous crab tonight. Yeah baby.
Old 12-31-2006, 12:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Any benefit to the economy by legalizing pot would be offset by the extreme detriment to the individual using pot. And we're already spending multi-billions on education, without any improvement in inner city schools. Carter established the Department of Education but some inner city school teachers still need bodyguards. (Liberals in Action.) Michael Medved had a segment on his radio program inviting pot users to call in. The callers had slurred speech and generally embarassing comments. It was quite convincing. While I'm at it, I'll put in a plug for Michael: He's extremely well informed and prepared. Educational(!) and enlightening to listen to.
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I don't agree. I have known a lot of marijuana users and they are quite satisfied with only using marijuana. They are not junkies or tweakers.

RAND | News Release | RAND Study Casts Doubt on Claims That Marijuana Acts as "Gateway" to the Use of Cocaine and Heroin

The UK finds the same results: Marijuana Research: Marijuana as a Gateway Drug
Canada finds the same results: Committee Reports
Here's the problem, Hev...

For every site you link that shows how pot is NOT a gateway drug, there is another link that proves that it IS.

So who's right?

I look at it as a little like driving my motorcycle 120 mph (something you can't do because your girlfriend won't let you get a motorcycle). I could certainly do it, and I just may very well survive. But if anything is even the least bit less than perfect, I'm dead. Therefore, I simply am not going to drive my motorcycle 120 mph (with another reminder that YOU do NOT have a motorcycle - so neener, neener, neener!).
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I've used pot off and on since 1967. I experimented a little in the late 60s and early 70s with other drugs like a lot of people. The only thing I do besides a toke once in a while is beer or a glass of wine and a nice glass of good scotch on the rocks. In fact, I'm gonna have a nice white wine with my Dungenous crab tonight. Yeah baby.
Yeah, but I'm looking at your avatar - and holy cow, you look awful! Downright ugly, as a matter of fact!
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Yeah, but I'm looking at your avatar - and holy cow, you look awful! Downright ugly, as a matter of fact!
I was having a bad day.
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