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Old 12-31-2006, 05:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Legalizing pot would create more dependent, unproductive people that the government would eventually have to add to its welfare rolls.
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:56 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Legalizing pot would create more dependent, unproductive people that the government would eventually have to add to its welfare rolls.

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This will escalate the welfare roll more than any God given herb will!
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Legalizing pot would create more dependent, unproductive people that the government would eventually have to add to its welfare rolls.

This will escalate the welfare roll more than any God given herb will!
It's The Debt-UWSA National Debt Clock

It will crush U.S.

“I think people need to be educated to the fact that marijuana is not a drug. Marijuana is an herb and a flower. God put it here. If He put it here and He wants it to grow, what gives the government the right to say that God is wrong?”---Willie Nelson

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What you don't seem to understand, Intangible, is that YOU are the POSTER CHILD of why Pot should NOT be legalized!
Old 12-31-2006, 10:12 PM   #44 (permalink)
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What you don't seem to understand, Intangible, is that YOU are the POSTER CHILD of why Pot should NOT be legalized!
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Any benefit to the economy by legalizing pot would be offset by the extreme detriment to the individual using pot. And we're already spending multi-billions on education, without any improvement in inner city schools. Carter established the Department of Education but some inner city school teachers still need bodyguards. (Liberals in Action.) Michael Medved had a segment on his radio program inviting pot users to call in. The callers had slurred speech and generally embarassing comments. It was quite convincing. While I'm at it, I'll put in a plug for Michael: He's extremely well informed and prepared. Educational(!) and enlightening to listen to.
You think slurred speech is an indicator of why pot should be illegal? The very same occurs under the legal influence of alcohol. Please explain to me how the benefit of the economy would be offset considering the amount of marijuana use already occuring (remember the first article in this link showing it is the biggest cash crop in America). The point is whether illegal or not the American people have spoken; they love pot! You might as well regulate it and reap the economical benefits since it is already being used on such a massive scale. The Canadian study I linked showed that marijuana is far less harmful to society than the already legal alcohol. It is time to stop being so blind to that hypocricy.
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Recent Research on Medical Marijuana
Recent Research on Medical Marijuana - NORML

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I just went to Nevada alcohol and prostitution legal, Pot bad? (sic)
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:41 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Here's the problem, Hev...

For every site you link that shows how pot is NOT a gateway drug, there is another link that proves that it IS.

So who's right?

I look at it as a little like driving my motorcycle 120 mph (something you can't do because your girlfriend won't let you get a motorcycle). I could certainly do it, and I just may very well survive. But if anything is even the least bit less than perfect, I'm dead. Therefore, I simply am not going to drive my motorcycle 120 mph (with another reminder that YOU do NOT have a motorcycle - so neener, neener, neener!).

Driving down the road at 120 mph on a motorcycle can lead to killing yourself and others on the road. Smoking a joint can lead to feeling happy, peaceful, relaxed, creatively inspired and a little hungry after a long days work.

While I agree it is a damn shame I don't own a bike I don't see your point. From personal experience and recent studies marijuana is no more of a gateway drug than alcohol or cigarettes. I think the prohibition of marijuana is causing far more harm than the drug itself.
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Driving down the road at 120 mph on a motorcycle can lead to killing yourself and others on the road. Smoking a joint can lead to feeling happy, peaceful, relaxed, creatively inspired and a little hungry after a long days work.

While I agree it is a damn shame I don't own a bike I don't see your point. From personal experience and recent studies marijuana is no more of a gateway drug than alcohol or cigarettes. I think the prohibition of marijuana is causing far more harm than the drug itself.
The point is, that though you disagree, there are numerous studies that show that pot IS a gateway drug.

So who am I supposed to believe? Somebody who smokes pot, and wants it to be legalized? Or studies that show its harmful side effects?

I know that there are studies showing pot has NO real side effects, and is not a gateway drug. But that's the original point of what I wrote: For every 1 site you can show that says it's NOT a gateway drug, there's another site showing that it IS.

So who's right?
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I do not think pot should be legalized for sale by the government. I do think people should be allowed to grow just enough for personal use and keep the laws against selling it.
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"...You think slurred speech is an indicator of why pot should be illegal? The very same occurs under the legal influence of alcohol..." hevusa

It is ONE indicator of why pot should stay illegal. The (well-intentioned) attempt to make alcohol illegal failed. Keeping pot illegal is working. It means less pot users. And citing 'studies' does not impress me. Studies can be rigged, biased, faked, phony, or all of the above. Less slurred-speech, dependent pot users is a good thing. I'll vote for less slurred-speech alcohol users, too, but not a return to prohibition. The fact that there are slurred-speech alcohol users creates more work for the government to keep them from being a danger to themselves and the rest of society.
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