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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA
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| Just went to NORML and found out that I was wrong about what I wrote above, at least technically. One ounce or less is a petty misdemeanor with no prior history and gets a fine of $50 to $100 and 15 days in jail. Personally though, ever since I moved here I've always heard 1/4 oz. or less means nothing here. Good night everyone Last edited by Lidwen Wraith; 05-11-2006 at 02:45 AM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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In Seattle marijuana has been given a lower priority than jay walking!! Literally. That being said I know a guy that got a jay walking ticket --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- "There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| for example if you legalize drugs than it will be everywhere will you be happy if your son or daughter takes drugs because its legal and you cant do anything??? dont you see that legalize everything make more dangers for everyone not only for them who broke law i think this is not your freedom you would like to have | |||||||||||||||||||||
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I think the dangers of drugs are very much there even when illegal. The difference would be that if legalized and regulated we could provide a safer environment for both the user and non user. Safer for the user because they would receive regulated doses (not a guessing game) at fair prices and have greater access to treatment & counsil. And safer for the non user as crime would decrease as the power of the dealer is diminished. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- "There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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As I leave you with restless liars and dealers on the take Last edited by Hayling; 05-13-2006 at 01:07 AM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Also, some drug addicts do want treatment. There would not be such a high population of addicts in volunteer rehabs if what you said were true. ------------------------------------------ http://www.cedro-uva.org/lib/reinarman.dutch.html U.S. drug warriors tend to lump all illicit drugs together, as if all were equally dangerous and addictive. Dutch drug policy makes pragmatic distinctions based on relative risks. When U.S. officials are confronted by scientific evidence showing marijuana to be among the least risky drugs, they fall back on the claim that it is a "stepping stone" to hard drugs. But here, too, the evidence from Dutch surveys is heresy: despite lawful availability, the majority of Dutch people never try marijuana, and most who do try it don't continue to use even marijuana very often, much less harder drugs. In short, the Dutch facts destroy the Drug Czar's core claims. Those who have built their careers in the U.S. drug control complex fear Dutch drug policy like the Catholic Church feared Gallileo: they must believe the Dutch model is a disaster, for if it is not their whole cosmology shatters. ------------------------------------------------- I doubt you will take the time to go check out this link muchless educate yourself by reading the whole thing, so to summarize, Legal drugs lead to less drug addicts, and the country would have less crime. If drug addict are going to do drugs anyway, what would be wrong with legalization? Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville Last edited by tyreay; 05-13-2006 at 11:08 AM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Well in BC they have a bait car program and one druggy who stole a car was high on meth and was driving at well over 100 miles an hour while shooting a loaded pistol out the window while screaming the f word. But as you say "I can't help notice you are again using what you have been told". And another things "Do you realize this would take away thier need to commit crimes against innocent people". These drug addicts have no money in the first place. As I leave you with restless liars and dealers on the take | |||||||||||||||||||||
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If you want to have a real education in this subject you first really need to realize that all the hype and reasons for not legalizing are Drug Czars bullshit. They are smart enough to know that if it worked in Holland, it could work here. The promise of taking peoples homes and cars and anything associated with them and thier drugs is the greedy incentive to keep the laws the way they are. They won't even legalize pot because the know they will make 100s of millions of dollars from take people's property, again this year. If you don't see this as a a incentive for the greedy government to keep drugs illegal, than you probably will never really want to know the truth anyway. Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville Last edited by tyreay; 05-13-2006 at 02:46 PM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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