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Old 04-24-2006, 12:52 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I think that there should be more strict laws to actually prevent people from using. Like, for example, making it a felony to be caught a second time with drugs any kind, any amount.

I wouldn't have a problem with that if marijuana wasn't lumped together with those dangerous drugs.
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Old 04-25-2006, 09:28 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The way drugs are sold in this country makes it an epidemic and the only real way to stop it is to enforce more strict laws and more lengthy jail terms.
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Old 04-25-2006, 12:30 PM   #43 (permalink)
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The way drugs are sold in this country makes it an epidemic and the only real way to stop it is to enforce more strict laws and more lengthy jail terms.
Lengthy jail terms do nothing to prevent drug use. Only therapy/drug treatment is going to help an addict. Hell, people locked up are probably doing plenty of drugs during those lengthy jail terms.

America needs to understand the distinction between drugs that can kill you from an OD (coke, heroin, alcohol, etc) and a drug like marijuana.
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:04 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 04-26-2006, 03:22 AM   #45 (permalink)
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well lengthy jail terms ust give the state more inmates and a larger expenditure. No effect on drug use.
If people are afraid of psycho high people doing crazy stuff it might be more helpful to to ban guns and other sorts of weapons. Also some legislation against operating machinery or driving under the influence will prevent accidents.
Just like alcohol you can't prevent drgu use. maybe it would just be smarter to legislate how you are allowed to do it. Mess with the method, not with the choice of doing it or not.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:04 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Mess with the method, not with the choice of doing it or not.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:42 PM   #47 (permalink)
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.... And use the money for education.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We're wasting an awful lot of money. Besides, people should have a right to do as they choose with their bodies, even if it is self-harm. People have a right to be stupid.

Personally, I have never done drugs, nor do I ever plan on doing drugs. I don't smoke, I don't drink, etc. The closest I get to drugs is my morning cup of caffeinated green tea. I just feel like the American government is wasting our tax money on something that's going to happen, regardless, especially when there are so many more important things out there. Think of all of the money we could save! The cost of imprisoning all of these druggies alone has to be pretty high (no pun intended).

Plus, if drugs are legal, we can regulate and tax them, which means more revenue!
If they can't do much of anything about illegal drugs, and those who sell and use them, it's stupid to think they'll be able to tax said drugs if they're made legal.

What is wrong with people's brains?
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:15 PM   #48 (permalink)
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If they can't do much of anything about illegal drugs, and those who sell and use them, it's stupid to think they'll be able to tax said drugs if they're made legal.

What is wrong with people's brains?

Haha. I guess Jefferson has never paid street prices. It isn't stupid to think they would be able to tax it because it would be sold much cheaper legally, eliminating the dealer's power. It would most likely lower crime as a result.
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:17 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Haha. I guess Jefferson has never paid street prices. It isn't stupid to think they would be able to tax it because it would be sold much cheaper legally, eliminating the dealer's power. It would most likely lower crime as a result.
why would it be cheaper? wouldn't sombody have to be out htere checking dimebags for tax stamps?
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why would it be cheaper? wouldn't sombody have to be out htere checking dimebags for tax stamps?

Do you see people pushing cigarettes out there? Sure to a small extent but the government is making big bucks in tax revenue.

Legalizing would eliminate the middle man (dealer) and because it is legal would lower prices as a result. If an oz. cost $300 on the street a company could grow a whole damn warehouse full and sell it for $80 an oz. with $20 to the taxman and still be WAY ahead of the game.

I would give my support to a mom and pop kind of place. Most people do not have the time or know-how to grow themselves. It would make a lot of money for our nation.
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