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Originally Posted by waitingtables  This country has suffered through worse and turned it around and it can do it again. The question is, how bad will people let it get before they realize they have to change their shit. It would also help if our leaders could work together for the betterment of the people and not their own asses and the corporate pimps. | How about all the activist pimps out there? Or the union pimps with cardcheck?
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03-13-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by waitingtables This country has suffered through worse and turned it around and it can do it again. The question is, how bad will people let it get before they realize they have to change their shit. It would also help if our leaders could work together for the betterment of the people and not their own asses and the corporate pimps. | överens,President Obama his politique party dont support his policy.hur du sägt,his politique party dont defend him when the tory party attack his policy.so when you say people must change this is true becuase politicens there only care abaout themselve.
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03-14-2010, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by leighredf Bashing on Wall Street won't help the economy, it would just drag the market down. It does concern me that the market seems to be doing well (which has, however, helped people with retirement accounts to bounce back) while the rest of the economy is floundering.
All job categories have lost lots of jobs except for the Federal government, which has added 75k jobs since Obama took office.
Just what we need, more government workers (esp, since their average salary/benefits is $100k cf. to $67k in the private sector). |
Correcting the way that Wall St. and the regulators were doing their "business" before and putting a stop to those very bad, risky practices where the risk is public and the profit is private, is not bashing Wall St. The federal government has to create jobs when no one else is and to spend in times unlike any other since the Great Depression, or it would be another Great Depression. The time to tighten the government wallet is not during the fragile recovery of the financial catastrophe this country is suffering from. It just isn't. While all of the points are valid, if the government doesn't do things things, Americans will see times like they never have, and are totally unfamiliar with dealing with. There aren't all that many old timers left from the early 30's. to teach the youngins how to deal with actual major National financial struggles. | |
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03-14-2010, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by leighredf How about all the activist pimps out there? Or the union pimps with cardcheck? |
They have pull with the government, yes. But I think you understood my point, and that it is a very valid point. Any person with the pull of huge amounts of money to offer can buy our officials. Who lobbies for the people? | |
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03-15-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by waitingtables They have pull with the government, yes. But I think you understood my point, and that it is a very valid point. Any person with the pull of huge amounts of money to offer can buy our officials. Who lobbies for the people? | I don't disagree. Who lobbies for the people? Nobody.
I sometimes wonder about President Obama and what he would do if he didn't have to deal with Reid and Pelosi. He stood up to the teachers' unions, who are somewhat miffed over his NCLB proposal. I think he's more pragmatic and less dogmatic that many people think. | |
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03-15-2010, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by leighredf I don't disagree. Who lobbies for the people? Nobody.
I sometimes wonder about President Obama and what he would do if he didn't have to deal with Reid and Pelosi. He stood up to the teachers' unions, who are somewhat miffed over his NCLB proposal. I think he's more pragmatic and less dogmatic that many people think. |
I agree. But he does have an ideology that he supports as well. Just like any other politician. If he had the votes, he'd push for UHC and strong cap and trade. | |
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Originally Posted by waitingtables I agree. But he does have an ideology that he supports as well. Just like any other politician. If he had the votes, he'd push for UHC and strong cap and trade. | That's unfortunate, because cap and trade would hand over global economic dominance to China and India. | |
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Originally Posted by waitingtables I agree. But he does have an ideology that he supports as well. Just like any other politician. If he had the votes, he'd push for UHC and strong cap and trade. | At some ungodly hour this a.m., there was a new book author on Foxnews (not your personal favorite, I'm sure) who really did a good job explaining the Wall St. bonus situation that led to execs at companies that flopped still getting thier large bonuses. This author clearly agreed with everything you've said about the bonuses. You'll say, LOL, "doesn't sound like Foxnews" but the morning show is not at all like the evening opinion shows.
What irritates me is that I remembered the man's name until I started this post. | |
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03-16-2010, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by leighredf At some ungodly hour this a.m., there was a new book author on Foxnews (not your personal favorite, I'm sure) who really did a good job explaining the Wall St. bonus situation that led to execs at companies that flopped still getting thier large bonuses. This author clearly agreed with everything you've said about the bonuses. You'll say, LOL, "doesn't sound like Foxnews" but the morning show is not at all like the evening opinion shows.
What irritates me is that I remembered the man's name until I started this post. |
It might have been Michael Lewis. He's been making the rounds pushing his new book. He wrote The Blind Side, and used to be a Wall St. guy. He was on the Daily Show last night, and a couple of other shows talking about the practices that got us into this mess. | |
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| It's really not about any one person to blame; or what any one person or politician can do to magically fix things.It's more important that we as individuals do what we can personally to fix our own situations first and foremost. I agree that there are some things government can- and should- correct by legislation. I just don't believe that personal responsibilty can or should be legislated. | |
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