Why Socialist Ideas Don't Work

borden123 · 02-08-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by garysher

borden can you name even one country that is entirely socialist or entirely capitalist?

Why? I know that every country has a mixed economy (even the US), but there are some things the government should control and things that the government shouldn't control. The fact is Obama want to have the government to start controlling things that shouldn't be controlled by the government.

borden123 · 02-08-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mikelew007

A figment of your imagination?

We couldn't even get a Medicare buy-in, we couldn't even let people buy their own insurance via the government, UHC? Give me a break lol.

I was referring to his original plan, not the one that was recently rejected due to the electing of Senator Brown.

yzerman19wingnut · 02-08-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

Here's some stats on Sweden. Could you imagine having some of these entitlements in the U.S.? We simply don't have the culture that would make it work. But check out the taxation.
Is small government best for society? | Society | The Guardian

I like this quote from the comments....
It's not rocket science. If you encourage a people to believe that in all things the individual is king, they will act like selfish bastards.

Sounds like the U.S.

to quote your article: "The country's tax burden, at 47.1% of GDP, is the world's second largest, after Denmark."

I don't think the American people will go for gold on that one. In fact if the US wants to shoot for having those kinds of higher taxes the people will revolt. It's not going to happen.

But the one thing that will never happen here is the forcing all welfare recipients into "volunteer work". That kind of enslavement is probably the only reason they can economically stay afloat. I don't see all the cracked out American Welfare recipients in the US doing it. It would go over like a snowball in hell.

But forcing them to earn their welfare is a notable idea.

garysher · 02-08-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by yzerman19wingnut

to quote your article: "The country's tax burden, at 47.1% of GDP, is the world's second largest, after Denmark."

I don't think the American people will go for gold on that one. In fact if the US wants to shoot for having those kinds of higher taxes the people will revolt. It's not going to happen.

But the one thing that will never happen here is the forcing all welfare recipients into "volunteer work". That kind of enslavement is probably the only reason they can economically stay afloat. I don't see all the cracked out American Welfare recipients in the US doing it. It would go over like a snowball in hell.

But forcing them to earn their welfare is a notable idea.

Didn't Clinton try that with his welfare to work program?

Why did they end that?

garysher · 02-08-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by borden123

Why? I know that every country has a mixed economy (even the US), but there are some things the government should control and things that the government shouldn't control. The fact is Obama want to have the government to start controlling things that shouldn't be controlled by the government.

Another brilliant generalisation!

Which things should the government control and which should they NOT control?

Pray enlighten us oh wise one

borden123 · 02-08-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by garysher

Another brilliant generalisation!

Which things should the government control and which should they NOT control?

Pray enlighten us oh wise one

The should control everything that they currently control except education and the possibility of health care.

borden123 · 02-08-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yzerman19wingnut

But the one thing that will never happen here is the forcing all welfare recipients into "volunteer work". That kind of enslavement is probably the only reason they can economically stay afloat. I don't see all the cracked out American Welfare recipients in the US doing it. It would go over like a snowball in hell.

Why? Because it would prevent the lazy citizens of America be lazy. It's a great idea because if you don't wan to do volunteer work, then you are almost forced to find a job.