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Old 02-05-2008, 08:37 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Oh boy more Obama's a Muslim/secret " Manchurian Candidate" Muslim/racist Christian BS lol. I'd expect it from a place like Yahoo Answers but not here lol.



Maybe because everything you have written has come from a BS smear E-mail. You can't believe everything that has entered your inbox.

PolitiFact | E-mail slams Obama on religion, race
FactCheck.org: Sliming Obama
(Almost an exact duplicate of what jaaaman has posted)
Hey... it's your choice whether or not any of this changes your perception of your man Obama. I am simply presenting the facts as I see them, or as I interpret them. You do what you wish with it. Frankly, I don't give a damn either way.





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Old 02-05-2008, 09:06 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Whoa! Utah goes to Romney??

Never saw it coming...
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:14 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Whoa! Utah goes to Romney??

Never saw it coming...
-GASP!-
Obama is a Socialist, racist Muslim who will tax us to death and McCain is a senile warmonger who will start WW3- Failtards.

"Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it."-Sen. John McCain, February 2000.

I miss the old McCain...
Old 02-05-2008, 09:21 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Hey... it's your choice whether or not any of this changes your perception of your man Obama.

Outright lies about a candidate usually don't change my perception of said candidate. Doesn't matter who that candidate is.


I am simply presenting the facts as I see them, or as I interpret them.

So you "interpreted" his middle name from Hussein to Mohammed...


You didn't present any facts, 'twas nothing but chain E-mail, smear campaign, BS. In fact the 1st page of my second link has an E-mail message that says everything you have written almost to a T, it's almost word-for-word lol.

You do what you wish with it. Frankly, I don't give a damn either way.
So you posted it to do what then? If you don't care who does what with it, why did you even bother?

Here's what I'll do with it. Based on the quantity of lies and poor quality of said lies, and the fact that they have been debunked time and again, I declare this tripe to be pure, unadulterated...



Obama is a Socialist, racist Muslim who will tax us to death and McCain is a senile warmonger who will start WW3- Failtards.

"Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it."-Sen. John McCain, February 2000.

I miss the old McCain...
Old 02-05-2008, 09:35 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Seriously though...If this were a church that said they were..."We are a congregation which is Unashamedly WHITE and Unapologetically Christian", the media would eat that person alive. Especially if his name were Huckabee. Not that Obama is a racist, but that statement, if it were "white" based, would be devisive no doubt.

You can't deny it is being given a pass because Obama is Black.

Or is it being given a pass right now until the real candidates are chosen?
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This whole thing is more fitting on the Conspiracy Theory Forum.



Either we are having Christians afraid that there is some covert Muslim terrorist with an agenda to better the continent of Africa even to the compensation of the good of this nation or we have people who believe that the "real" candidates are not the ones out there for all to see.

Why can't we just be happy for a man like Obama to be in the race at all? I know all those black anti-American Muslims in the Kennedy clan are happy about it.

And so am I.

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Old 02-05-2008, 10:00 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Nothing conspiracy about it. If Obama is a member of this church, and I don't know that he is, I'm just saying, that is a direct link to their web site. That statement would never fly for a white candidate. Not in a million years.
Old 02-05-2008, 10:13 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Nothing conspiracy about it. If Obama is a member of this church, and I don't know that he is, I'm just saying, that is a direct link to their web site. That statement would never fly for a white candidate. Not in a million years.
Maybe it has to do something with that whole slavery thing.

Last time a group of whites say something like that, they're usually on their way to burn some crosses or lynch someone. Groups that are black that say something like that, are usually focused on defending themselves from lynches, and organizing around the idea of MLK's dream of an equal society.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:46 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Nothing conspiracy about it. If Obama is a member of this church, and I don't know that he is, I'm just saying, that is a direct link to their web site. That statement would never fly for a white candidate. Not in a million years.
Maybe it has to do something with that whole slavery thing.

Last time a group of whites say something like that, they're usually on their way to burn some crosses or lynch someone. Groups that are black that say something like that, are usually focused on defending themselves from lynches, and organizing around the idea of MLK's dream of an equal society.
I realize it's a catch 22...But the thing is, and I hate to say this but like Kat just said, when it's a white saying such a thing, you can pretty much guarentee they are saying it while acting in a racist manner.

Not all the time, but the majority of the time. You really don't see alot of whites going on about 'white racial pride' unless they're standing on court steps, surrounded by swasika flags while the police are holding a line to keep anti-hate protestors back...

The simple fact is, in their 12 point article, they make it very clear that they do no support anti-racism, that their sole reason is to encourage African Americans to take responsibility of how their families, communities, and culture proceed into the future with pride, determination, and active passivism. To better themselves, despite society perceptions/pre-judgement.

It's not a bad thing at all...And it isn't anywhere close to what Jaa was trying to paint it as, or those that gave him that idea were painting it as.
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Hey Mike... you can take your Unpatriotic, Unamerican, African Nationalist candidate...


and shove it.

Thank you.





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