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With the loss in Hawaii; Clinton's campaign is in real trouble. Losses in 10 straight prarimaries and caucuses can't possibly be easy to explain. She is now looking for the proverbial "needle in the haystack to turn herself around. But America has shown that she can't turn herself around. So, I look for her to commence with the mudslinging and even stooping to create the mud to be slung-please note the ridiculous Sleaze Charge that suddenly appears in another thread. It's all the hope Hillary's campaign has left. Last edited by nuttyjoe; 02-20-2008 at 11:51 AM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin
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| Right now it's just a matter of choosing against the other guy. There's no way I'm voting for McCain or Clinton, so all I have left is Obama or Ron Paul if he decides to run independent. I think it's a shame that these are the best choices that we have. But hell will freeze over and Santa Claus will move in before I vote for Hillary. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face! The question you need to ask is not "how much do I hate Hillary?" but "How good a President will Obama be?" It's certainly looking shaky for her right now, but if she wins Texas, Ohio and PA and persuades the party to give her the delegates from Michigan and Florida, then she could still make it. If she does I hope she picks Obama as her running mate. If Obama wins any of those three then it looks like he's home and dry. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL
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| I think "Obama" sounds too much like "Osama." "Obama" is also a bongo-drum sounding name. The name itself should disqualify him as a viable candidate for president. This is for the same reason that "Huckabee" is too stupid sounding of a name for president. At the end of the day, these are the issues that are truly important. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Your question of how good a President Obama will be be is a good one. The answer simply is: Well, he can't be any worse than what we've had lately! This is what Obama is preaching to the masses when he gives a speech. And this message is hitting home. The other thing I like about Obama is that he is also not running on the "Republicans caused all our problems, but only Democrats (Obama) can fix them. He understands that America needs to concentrate more on getting those problems fixed; and less on the Democrat vs. GOP angle. And the next President will have to be one that can (and will) work with all; irregardless of political affiliation. This is the attraction that I see in the Obama campaign, and it looks like a sizable portion of America is seeing this also in Obama. How else can you explain 10 straight primary/caucus victories in a row? Not small victories either; but double-digit percentages! I do agree with you about Texas and Ohio's value for Hillary: it may be her last stand. Lose these, and I'm pretty sure the superdelegates will start jumping ship. Last edited by nuttyjoe; 02-21-2008 at 12:32 AM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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I don't have anything personal against Hillary, but millions of conservatives (especially Christian conservatives) do. Many of whom would stay at home and not cast a ballot for McCain unless they can do so against Hillary. Not only that but I think the true strength in the Obama campaign is that he's able to energize the left across divisions. One of the main troubles the left has had for decades is that they can't seem to come together on anything, because the difference in opinion is vast and everyone has their issue. The right is classically divided among the Christian conservatives and wall street conservatives, but they have been able to coalesce and dominate American politics. One of the main reasons why they were able to do that was because of none other than Bill Clinton. Even if Hillary is able to win the election, we could see a re-coalescing of main street and wall street Republicans and the Democratic Party would ultimately suffer. I feel like I'm almost speculating as much as CNN but you can't deny that the Republicans have been able to garner both cash and votes in their vast Clinton-hate machine. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Apr 2007
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| I am at the point of 50-50. half says, screw it, toss Obama to the lions and the other half wonders if this may not be the saddest chapter in American presidential politics. Even though I never have heard wife wife so much as burp, her comment about never becing proud of America is a huge festering thorn in my side that won't come out. I am sick to death of the stuffed shirt politicans I have lived through since IKE. IKE and a couple others were tolerable but the rest were bags of bug droppngs. I may just close my eyes when I vote this time. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin
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| I don't think it's a case of America being ready for a Black president. I just think that the choices up against him are so bad that he's actually the best thing going. Like I said before, I think I might end up voting for the guy if there are no other choices. And I don't like any of his "change" that he is proposing. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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