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03-04-2008, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe  I agree with you, Mike. I like the fact that McCain disassociated himself from the Cunningham fiasco. Cunningham was obviously trying to scare America by associating Obama with Saddam Hussein- because of the similarity in the names. I give McCain kudos for that.
Heh. Obama was right about this being the silly season eh (OMFG! HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN!!!! RUN!!!!!)? But yea McCain did a good job in that little situation. Hats off to him!
I also agree with FX. The Obama steamroller will not be stopped. Nothing Clinton has said or done lately will change the 11 straight losses; or prevent any more. But I also agree that Tuesday will be the day of reckoning. I think if she loses 2 of the 4 states; you will see her supporters jumping ship quickly to Obama. |
The polls (If you believe them) say that in both of the big states, it's gonna be a nail biter.
You and FX are right, Clinton cannot seem to slow Obama's momentum, but that might change depending on the outcome of today's primaries.
Worst-case scenario for Hillary: Obama wins Ohio and Texas (and Vermont) which would really hurt Hillary's campaign.
I predict though that the most likely even will be that he'll only take Texas and Vermont and Clinton will grab Ohio and Rhode Island, I don't think either state will overwhelmingly vote for either candidate. Will winning one big state help or hurt Clinton? I just don't know lol.
If Clinton wins both Texas and Ohio however, then she's back in the game.
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03-04-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mikelew007 The polls (If you believe them) say that in both of the big states, it's gonna be a nail biter.
You and FX are right, Clinton cannot seem to slow Obama's momentum, but that might change depending on the outcome of today's primaries.
Worst-case scenario for Hillary: Obama wins Ohio and Texas (and Vermont) which would really hurt Hillary's campaign.
I predict though that the most likely even will be that he'll only take Texas and Vermont and Clinton will grab Ohio and Rhode Island, I don't think either state will overwhelmingly vote for either candidate. Will winning one big state help or hurt Clinton? I just don't know lol.
If Clinton wins both Texas and Ohio however, then she's back in the game.
| Suppose that Obama takes Texas and Ohio? I wonder if Hillary may become more belligerent? That's what I think she has become in the days leading up to the primaries today.
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03-04-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by highway80west Suppose that Obama takes Texas and Ohio? I wonder if Hillary may become more belligerent? |
If Obama takes both states I think it would really hurt her campaign (It would be more a symbolic loss than anything substantiative, I don't think either candidate will win by a wide margin and both of them will take home a decent number of delegates. Losing both of those states though would be symbolic enough to cause great concerns for Clinton.), I just don't how she could recover from such a traumatic loss. I don't see her packing up and quitting afterwards but I don't know how she could bounce back, unless she were to have some sort of big win in Pennsylvania which is coming up.
Will Hillary become more belligerent? I'll just say that hopefully she'll try to run a more positive campaign whether or not she loses.
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03-04-2008, 05:33 PM
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The tide is turning against Obama, the honeymoon is over.
People are beginning to see this may not be the dawn of a new day and we're not about to turn the page and write a new chapter.
Nope. Whoever is the next President will have to face all the same boring, gritty, unpleasant intractable old problems, and a lot of nebulous speeches won't have any impact.
It's a long way to the convention - hopefully long enough for people to see the truth about Obama
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Level up: 25%, 47 Points needed | | He also hasnt won the big states either. Hillary did. That'll hurt him even more if he makes the democratic nomination. | |
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03-04-2008, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chandon12 He also hasnt won the big states either. Hillary did. That'll hurt him even more if he makes the democratic nomination. | Did you see Huck the other night and ask him your question?
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03-05-2008, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by garysher Did you see Huck the other night and ask him your question? | Well, our points before are moot now. Hillary has won 3 of the 4 states; which probably saved her campaign for now. It will also prevent anymore superdelegates from jumping ship now.
However, neither candidate will be able to secure enough delegates. I'm wondering just how the Dems plan to solve this problem! | |
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03-05-2008, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe However, neither candidate will be able to secure enough delegates. I'm wondering just how the Dems plan to solve this problem! | The almighty coin toss?? 
Or maybe Obama and Clinton can play a round of Street Fighter for the nomination? Super Smash Bros. Brawl maybe?
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03-05-2008, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mikelew007 | Naw. Clinton just needs to flash her tits! | |
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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe Now; here is another folly of America's- getting involved in the politics of countries and peoples that we have no clue of how they operate.
Does anybody remember that America supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq war? This is why we in America must learn that it is not our place in the world to dictate how other sovereign nations govern themselves! Rather, we just simply need to assess our needs in the area involved; and base our strategic and operational outlook from there.
I actually liked McCain- until he made the foolish remark of America being in Iraq for another 100 years. Does he (with all his experience) not realize that it costs money-lots of it-to deploy American troops overseas? If we take the example that the Democrats Obama and Clinton use that it is costing about 12 million dollars per month to support our troops now there; just how much more money will America pay for something we do not get anything back from? Look at our economy now before you answer that. We weren't even smart enough to get a quid pro quo from the provisional government in Iraq giving us preferential oil prices at least while our forces are there!
How does your financial outlook feel now? | Don't forget the fat salary I am receiving whilst working in Iraq. To all the taxpayers I say: "thank you."  | |
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