sarasara

First it was flip-flops NAFTA and the war now Obama has revealed another gaping hole in his high-flown rhetoric!

Obamas campaign has now confirmed that he would pursue the same policy as McCain and retain a small number of troops in Iraq to guard the US embassy and to help with fighting terrorists!

His committment is open ended which cannot be any different from McCains 100 years statement.
Whats your next flipflop Obi?

Samantha Power confirms the plan in this interview:

pensacola_niceman

OH my God!! You mean the Iraqis need us here for another 100 years! Who would have bloody thought.

pensacola_niceman

Samantha power is a hot, and very intelligent, women

Katczinsky

Not sure on what you're referring to when you say "flip-flops NAFTA and the war".

This is a very ignorant statement. First of all, that's not McCain's policy at all. McCain wouldn't withdraw the troops and 'leave a small number' in; McCain's for keeping the present course and he's for the surge.

Second of all, if this plan really is what he's now promising, then it's not any different than that of Hillary Clinton's plan. Both would leave a small force in Iraq to protect our huge-ass embassy and carry out special operations perhaps against the rather small number of Al-Qaeda attempting to camp out in Iraq.

Not sure I agree with either plan. It will probably do one of two things, really put the fire on the Iraqis to secure their own country as planned, or it will just expose our troops that are there which is most likely.

The point is Obama (and maybe Clinton) would end the present course of encamping permanently. The presence of a 'small number of troops' perhaps is an indefinite promise, but if you wanted someone that would pull all troops out immediately, then your only bet was Dennis Kucinich. Or now perhaps Ralph Nader. So we're going to have to do the best with what we got, and Obama's plan promises the most troops out of Iraq the quickest. So there you go.

Samantha Power may have not been the most valuable person to Obama politically by this interview and calling Clinton a 'monster'. But she's been honest and incidentally correct. I personally don't think 'monster' went far enough to describe how Clinton has been conducting her campaign. She comes out with the nastiest below-the-belt attacks on Obama and has the nerve to cry victim. You know the "Obama calling Canada to calm them over NAFTA" story? Turns out it wasn't Obama that called NAFTA, but now a higher-up in Canadian government has revealed that it was actually the Clinton campaign that called the Canadian government. Seems as if she does something and then says 'the other guy' did it. You know the whole "Obama is a Muslim" e-mail string? Turns out insiders in the Clinton campaign started those.

One thing I have against the Obama campaign is that they seem to be afraid of defending themselves. They confuse 'dirty politics' with honest defense. Obama has been slow time after time to call Clinton on her lies and smear tactics. I just hope he learns that lesson before he goes up against McCain.

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sarasara

McCain actually explained his 100 years statement. It being more like the South Korea thing. But Obama has stated he wouldn’t even have a base there. So that report of Sam Power is completely contradicting what he said.

If the media would get on this Obama will be painted as a flip-flop in no time.

Barak Obama:
“I do think it is important for us not only to protect our embassy,” he said, “but also to engage in counter-terrorism activities. We’ve seen progress against AQI [Al Qaida in Iraq] ... I think that we should have some strike capability.” (New York Times, November 2, 2007):

http://www.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns/region/10196217.html

Sam Power was his foreign policy advisor and as Obama is totally ignorant on the subject anything he says is meaningless and changes day to day.
What do you think the huge American embassy in the green zone? (Claimed to be the largest Embassy complex in the world)is but a base? How many troops will it take just to guard it let alone to carry out the counter-terror ops he specifies?

garysher

Jeremy Paxman is brilliant - I wish there was somebody like him on American TV. I'd love to see him interview Bush, Cheney or one of the inner circle, Paxman can tear any of them apart.

He's my role model for chat forum debates.

And that Samantha Power is definitely what we call the "thinking man's crumpet".

I bet she and Paxman shared a cocktail or two after the show.

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PplPower

so wait, you mean to tell me that guarding the embassy is the same as staying at war with a country for another hundred years?? Aren't there soldiers at most of our embassy's already anyway?

garysher

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