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Old 04-23-2008, 01:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Would it be in “AMERICAS” best interest...

Would it be in “AMERICAS” best interest to:
1) After your states primary have all REPS&DEM re-register as a third
party. (Do worry you can always register back to your old party if you
want)
2) And for every body to vote late and see if there is a clear winner in
your stateT o vote for a third party or write in candidate.

I think this would benefit all Americans that believe the Government/elected
officials are too corrupt and unresponsive to the average American voters.

For example G.W. Bush said something like:
Because of the record voter turn out and the record number of votes he got
it was a Clear sign that most Americans supported his mandate, and direction
he was taking America.

Now when ~98% of Americans are registered as and DEM or REP and ~98%
vote for a DEM or REP that is by default support for what those two parties
are doing!

Here are my reasons why “Americans” who are REPS or DEMS should do items
1 & 2.
For #1 if you re-register as a third party, the party you left will have to take
notice that they are not happy with what they have been doing in Washington.
If enough people Abandon those parties they will be more
inclined to a “GOOD JOB” and not just focus on being just a little bit better
than the other party.

For #2, we know that the popular vote does not count for squat, and the
Electoral votes are not legally tie to the pop-vote, so the pop-vote not
important for electing the Prez. But the popular will show “Broad-Based Public
Support” and this will allow third parties a chance to debate their political
case against the REPS&DEMS. (i.e. Ron Paul had a very popular “Get back to
the Constitution” message that the REPS&DEMS never discussed,
Nader tries to push the Corporate corruption issue that both parties don’t
truly address. etc…).
Also if your state is like 70% party A and you are Party B then you have no
hope of getting your party any electoral vote (assuming you are in a “Winner
Take All” state)
So instead of voting down party line you can vote for a third party as a
protest vote, as a sign that more Americans are ready to find a good party,
and as a wake up call to corrupt politicians, that the Status Quo is not
welcome any more.

Or do you think the way things are now is good for America?
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Voting for a third party candidate in about as useless as trying to broker peace in Israel.
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It keeps you from saying you voted for [insert loser from major party here]. Yet you still exercised your right to vote.
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It keeps you from saying you voted for [insert loser from major party here]. Yet you still exercised your right to vote.
Americans like to see everything in life in binary terms, including their politics.

It has to be one of two choices:

black or white
walk don't walk
winners losers (there are no ties in American sport)
guilty innocent
with us or against us
democrat republican
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Old 04-24-2008, 12:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Americans like to see everything in life in binary terms, including their politics.

It has to be one of two choices:

black or white
walk don't walk
winners losers (there are no ties in American sport)
guilty innocent
with us or against us
democrat republican
Right, it's also called one-dimensional thinking.
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Vote Bob Bar. Then vote for your State congress, governor
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Vote Bob Bar. Then vote for your State congress, governor
Thanks for bringing him up. He might be "the other guy" that gets my vote this year.
And Indago, that was a great video.
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Thanks for bringing him up. He might be "the other guy" that gets my vote this year.
And Indago, that was a great video.
Bob Barr has commonly been seen as a gun-toting, NRA champion, anti-gay bigot. Barr is definitely all of these, and more.

He's been named "Gun Rights Legislator of the Year" by the Gun Rights Organization, a far right wing organization.

While pretending to be a champion of "traditional" marriage, Barr has remarried three times and also licked whipped cream off of a beauty pageant’s breasts. Hardly a man of "traditional" marriage standards.

Despite this, he has remained one of President Clinton's harshest critics regarding Monica Lewinsky, and was calling for his resignation long before the Lewinsky scandal.

He's also been critical of Clinton's fundraising practices, despite his own shifty financing services.

In addition, during the Judiciary Committee hearings (which he serves on) it was revealed that Barr has given speeches to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a racist organization.

Barr Page

The Hitleresque moustache doesn't flatter him either.
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Bob Barr has commonly been seen as a gun-toting, NRA champion, anti-gay bigot. Barr is definitely all of these, and more.

He's been named "Gun Rights Legislator of the Year" by the Gun Rights Organization, a far right wing organization.

While pretending to be a champion of "traditional" marriage, Barr has remarried three times and also licked whipped cream off of a beauty pageant’s breasts. Hardly a man of "traditional" marriage standards.

Despite this, he has remained one of President Clinton's harshest critics regarding Monica Lewinsky, and was calling for his resignation long before the Lewinsky scandal.

He's also been critical of Clinton's fundraising practices, despite his own shifty financing services.

In addition, during the Judiciary Committee hearings (which he serves on) it was revealed that Barr has given speeches to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a racist organization.

Barr Page

The Hitleresque moustache doesn't flatter him either.
But the joke is that he's passing as white. Look at this guy, he looks at the very least "Creole".

Plus the breast licking stripper thing only cements my opinion that this is my kinda guy. But I'll vote for wacky Ron Paul too. I doubt he's done much stripper licking though.
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