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06-03-2006, 03:48 PM
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What's accurate? Exit polls or ballots?
| Classic example: Anybody seen the picture of Harry Truman smiling and holding up the newspaper that has the front headline in big bold letters DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN??
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Originally Posted by aMFliberal Classic example: Anybody seen the picture of Harry Truman smiling and holding up the newspaper that has the front headline in big bold letters DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN?? | Yeah, but wasn't Truman a Democrat?
So WAY BACK THEN the DEMOCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION! THAT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION!  | |
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06-03-2006, 06:08 PM
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06-04-2006, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson The problem is that Exit Polls were created so that competing news agencies could try to be the FIRST to "break the news" concerning who won what seat, and what state.
They are NOT accurate.
They are NOT the election itself.
It's kind of like me telling you that I weigh 205 lbs. Then I step on the doctor's scale and it says I weigh 225 lbs. What's accurate? What I tell you, or what the scale says?
What's accurate? Exit polls or ballots? | But you are ignoring one of Kennedy's main arguments. Exit polls are usually accepted as one test to see if an election is fair. The Bush administration agrees, as they used exit polls to denounce an election in Ukraine. Why are exit polls a good indicator when it comes to Ukraine but not when it comes to the US.
Further, the exit poll problem was only one argument. How do you explain the caging and the mathematician who "despises democrats" that said the odds of all the abnormalities just randomly happening was as close to being scientifically impossible as possible?
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Originally Posted by thenewnoise But you are ignoring one of Kennedy's main arguments. Exit polls are usually accepted as one test to see if an election is fair. The Bush administration agrees, as they used exit polls to denounce an election in Ukraine. Why are exit polls a good indicator when it comes to Ukraine but not when it comes to the US.
Further, the exit poll problem was only one argument. How do you explain the caging and the mathematician who "despises democrats" that said the odds of all the abnormalities just randomly happening was as close to being scientifically impossible as possible? | Yes, I am ignoring one of the VERY BIASED Kennedy's agruments.
Exit polls are NOT a gauge of election accuracy! They have ALWAYS BEEN a way for competing networks to predict which candidate is winning - and to get it on the air first!
Exit polls are NOT scientific, nor are they accurate!
Now... would you care to explain to me how King County, in Washington, had thousands more votes - for DEMOCRATS - than there were registered voters? People who are dead mysteriously voted! 8,500 more votes than voters!
Care to elaborate on the DEMOCRATS' obvious voter fraud?
The Democrats STOLE THE ELECTION IN 2004!!!!! http://www.votelaw.com/blog/archives/003082.html http://thirtysecondthoughts.blogspot...s-not-for.html | |
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06-04-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson Yes, I am ignoring one of the VERY BIASED Kennedy's agruments.
Exit polls are NOT a gauge of election accuracy! They have ALWAYS BEEN a way for competing networks to predict which candidate is winning - and to get it on the air first!
Exit polls are NOT scientific, nor are they accurate!
Now... would you care to explain to me how King County, in Washington, had thousands more votes - for DEMOCRATS - than there were registered voters? People who are dead mysteriously voted! 8,500 more votes than voters!
Care to elaborate on the DEMOCRATS' obvious voter fraud?
The Democrats STOLE THE ELECTION IN 2004!!!!! http://www.votelaw.com/blog/archives/003082.html http://thirtysecondthoughts.blogspot...s-not-for.html | I think that should also be investigated and if there is evidence found, those responsible should face justice. But the alleged misconduct of democrats does not justify or mitigate the alleged misconduct of republicans.
If exit polls only exist for news stations, again I ask, why did the Bush administration use them to denounce an election in Ukraine? Why were they used to verify the results of Mexican elections?
Also, since you are claiming that exit polls are not accurate can you give me an example of an uncontested election that had similar exit poll errors? Further, if you are right, why would the news media use a tool to predict results that they know is not reliable? That does not seem to be in their interest. And you are still ignoring the argument of the mathematician...
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06-05-2006, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by thenewnoise 1. I think that should also be investigated and if there is evidence found, those responsible should face justice. But the alleged misconduct of democrats does not justify or mitigate the alleged misconduct of republicans.
2. If exit polls only exist for news stations, again I ask, why did the Bush administration use them to denounce an election in Ukraine? Why were they used to verify the results of Mexican elections?
3. Also, since you are claiming that exit polls are not accurate can you give me an example of an uncontested election that had similar exit poll errors? Further, if you are right, why would the news media use a tool to predict results that they know is not reliable? That does not seem to be in their interest. And you are still ignoring the argument of the mathematician... | 1. This is true. But there is a vast difference between a verifiable difference of 8500 more votes than voters, and cry-babying about "rigged voting machines". One can be proven, while the other is simply conjecture and speculation.
2. Politics.
3. The news media is profit driven. Profits come from advertisers. Advertisers will spend more money on the networks that have more viewers. Networks aim for more viewers by trying to be the "first with the news". It isn't hard to figure out. | |
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06-05-2006, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hevusa The exit polls were accurate as usual EXCEPT where there were diebold touchscreens. The election was stolen from the people. |
Democrats have been stealing elections for years. The republicans just learned how to do it from them. See what you started? | |
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06-05-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alias Democrats have been stealing elections for years. The republicans just learned how to do it from them. See what you started? |
So you agree that the two political parties should be joined by some competition then?
Or do you think this somehow makes the theft of our presidency legal and tolerable?
See what you started? I'm not a democrat. Speak for yourself.
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