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Old 07-31-2005, 01:02 AM   #41 (permalink)
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tadpole ... you sound like a good man but it appears we have a disagreement.
I just dont think that mcCain has been doing the right thing in the senate and if he doesnt do what i like in the senate, then im not going to like what he does as president.

As for Guiliani...
WEll.. he didnt do what any other mayor would have done (it goes without saying they would have to be a conservative)
And as for GWB, He has been a great president and this war has been the best thing.(when you said dangerous president, i assume you are refering to the war)
You have to be blind, deaf and dumb to think the war in Iraq is just or the best thing. It has hurt our country globally, economically, and decreased our saftey against terrorism.
The 'War on Terror' has done nothing but to spread terror around the world. George Bush is the worst terrorist the world has ever seen. All he has done with this administration is turn out to be the best weapon Osama bin Laden has in his arsenal.
I think calling him the worst terrorist is utter stupidity... He has definately made bad choices in this war but his intention was not to murder millions of innocents.
I'll admit it was an extreme statement meant to over-emphasize the point.
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:04 AM   #42 (permalink)
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tadpole ... you sound like a good man but it appears we have a disagreement.
I just dont think that mcCain has been doing the right thing in the senate and if he doesnt do what i like in the senate, then im not going to like what he does as president.

As for Guiliani...
WEll.. he didnt do what any other mayor would have done (it goes without saying they would have to be a conservative)
And as for GWB, He has been a great president and this war has been the best thing.(when you said dangerous president, i assume you are refering to the war)
Wow, I'm sorry but that was stupid.

Even as a Republican I am not going to agree with everything the Administration does and that means supporting a war that should never have happened. I know Bush had good intentions but the bottom line is he fucked up...
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:06 AM   #43 (permalink)
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tadpole ... you sound like a good man but it appears we have a disagreement.
I just dont think that mcCain has been doing the right thing in the senate and if he doesnt do what i like in the senate, then im not going to like what he does as president.

As for Guiliani...
WEll.. he didnt do what any other mayor would have done (it goes without saying they would have to be a conservative)
And as for GWB, He has been a great president and this war has been the best thing.(when you said dangerous president, i assume you are refering to the war)
Wow, I'm sorry but that was stupid.

Even as a Republican I am not going to agree with everything the Administration does and that means supporting a war that should never have happened. I know Bush had good intentions but the bottom line is he fucked up...
You are on a roll my friend... I owe you a beer, or six! w00t!
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:07 AM   #44 (permalink)
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tadpole ... you sound like a good man but it appears we have a disagreement.
I just dont think that mcCain has been doing the right thing in the senate and if he doesnt do what i like in the senate, then im not going to like what he does as president.

As for Guiliani...
WEll.. he didnt do what any other mayor would have done (it goes without saying they would have to be a conservative)
And as for GWB, He has been a great president and this war has been the best thing.(when you said dangerous president, i assume you are refering to the war)
Wow, I'm sorry but that was stupid.

Even as a Republican I am not going to agree with everything the Administration does and that means supporting a war that should never have happened. I know Bush had good intentions but the bottom line is he fucked up...
You are on a roll my friend... I owe you a beer, or six! w00t!
Can you get the incredible floating beer in Willie Wonkas factory? That would be a blast!
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:16 AM   #45 (permalink)
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FLrep, you are exactly like I was when I first started debating, I was an ignorant Republican only set upon my ways and that of the party. It took debating people like this to open my eyes and realize that you shouldn't stand for everything that your party believes. Last year I never thought I would be calling this war unjust but the truth is it's just that. If you continue to debate you are going to pick up more moderate positions on things. I never thought in a million years I would agree with a Liberal on anything...
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:20 AM   #46 (permalink)
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well even if we might have the lowest ones... they re high enough for me ...
Would you like them to be higher??
Being that we are the worst polluter in the world, yes I do wish they higher. It would promote public transportation which would help perserve the environment.

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And we know that the war in "IRAQ" doesnt really have anything to do with 9/11. look at some of the archives, i think the iraqi's are glad some one is finally helping them
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We all know? I guess what you are saying is "the democrats were right"







Why are republicans so gullible? So easily lead? Is it lack of education? I really would like to know. Democrats aren't far behind...

I still think we need more parties in the mix for a true democracy.

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The Republicans are not gullible just ignorant...They don't want to admit that there was no direct connection between Al Quaida and Saddam, you know basically anything to prove what Bush did was not the worst thing that could have happened.
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Old 07-31-2005, 02:09 AM   #47 (permalink)
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FLrep, you are exactly like I was when I first started debating, I was an ignorant Republican only set upon my ways and that of the party. It took debating people like this to open my eyes and realize that you shouldn't stand for everything that your party believes. Last year I never thought I would be calling this war unjust but the truth is it's just that. If you continue to debate you are going to pick up more moderate positions on things. I never thought in a million years I would agree with a Liberal on anything...
And I'll bet that many of the liberals here would reciprocate that feeling.

It's good to know that our little niche' on the web is doing some good.
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:27 AM   #48 (permalink)
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dont count on me changing... and as for "hevusa"
someothing tells me that republicans and democrats are epually as smart...
They just share different beliefs. isnt that how it goes??
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dont count on me changing... and as for "hevusa"
someothing tells me that republicans and democrats are epually as smart...
They just share different beliefs. isnt that how it goes??
I think democrats and republicans are equally stupid. Yes. Two sides of the same coin.
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i agree with you except for both being stupid. You might not like GWB but not all rep. are like him and 95% of them are sharp as a tack.
As for democrats... you answered it
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