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Old 04-13-2005, 03:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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She need to run for office in russia

Hillary Clinton is a TERRIBLE Women. Shes all about socialism. These Democrats seem to think it will work. Well maybe we should use the USSR as a great example. They were communist (not far at all from socialism) and their whole country collapsed around them. Hillary wants to dictate what I can and cannot do with my money. I know whats best for my money and I don't need some socialist women telling me where and where not to invest it. I like the big corporations. They provide me with a job. Unlike the anti-corporate liberals like hillary who are against it. Hillary probably even worked for 1. Look at John Kerry his wife is Terrisa Heines. But now now thats no big corporation. They just look over those little details. If a liberal turned this country the way they wanted it we would be looking at a new Nazi Germany.
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Hillary Clinton is a TERRIBLE Women. Shes all about socialism. These Democrats seem to think it will work. Well maybe we should use the USSR as a great example. They were communist (not far at all from socialism) and their whole country collapsed around them. Hillary wants to dictate what I can and cannot do with my money. I know whats best for my money and I don't need some socialist women telling me where and where not to invest it. I like the big corporations. They provide me with a job. Unlike the anti-corporate liberals like hillary who are against it. Hillary probably even worked for 1. Look at John Kerry his wife is Terrisa Heines. But now now thats no big corporation. They just look over those little details. If a liberal turned this country the way they wanted it we would be looking at a new Nazi Germany.
I doubt this guy realizes that citizens living under socialist governments worldwide enjoy some of the highest standards of living on earth. They have longer vacations than us, longer lifespans, work less hours a week, have lower crime rates, higher rates of educated people, lower pollution, more political parties than two (ie democracy), more social programs, and above all HIGHER TAXES.
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:38 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I doubt this guy realizes that citizens living under socialist governments worldwide enjoy some of the highest standards of living on earth. They have longer vacations than us, longer lifespans, work less hours a week, have lower crime rates, higher rates of educated people, lower pollution, more political parties than two (ie democracy), more social programs, and above all HIGHER TAXES.

Hmm Wow those people also don't enjoy the fruit of there labors. I would much rather put my money where I want it to go than into the goverment. And considering how most of these so called "high standards" of living dont compare to the poorest of the poor here shows how good they really are. I know your all excited at the thought of a TAX RAISE! You democrats love to take from the rich to give to the poor yet you dont seem to donate your own money to helping them. It only works if you can steal other peoples money. And lower pollution just means the goverment doesnt give them enough for multiple cars. And you can be sure you'll never see a company in a socialist country in the Fortune 500. Also you cant have more than 1 type of goverment when the country is socialism. If its so great why dont you just move there? I dont see very many socialist countries with a space program, or a up there with our military. And if you want longer vacations become your own boss. Make your own company. Thats what America is all about. It isnt a free ride and pay all your money to the undeserving.
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I doubt this guy realizes that citizens living under socialist governments worldwide enjoy some of the highest standards of living on earth. They have longer vacations than us, longer lifespans, work less hours a week, have lower crime rates, higher rates of educated people, lower pollution, more political parties than two (ie democracy), more social programs, and above all HIGHER TAXES.

Hmm Wow those people also don't enjoy the fruit of there labors. I would much rather put my money where I want it to go than into the goverment. And considering how most of these so called "high standards" of living dont compare to the poorest of the poor here shows how good they really are. I know your all excited at the thought of a TAX RAISE! You democrats love to take from the rich to give to the poor yet you dont seem to donate your own money to helping them. It only works if you can steal other peoples money. And lower pollution just means the goverment doesnt give them enough for multiple cars. And you can be sure you'll never see a company in a socialist country in the Fortune 500. Also you cant have more than 1 type of goverment when the country is socialism. If its so great why dont you just move there? I dont see very many socialist countries with a space program, or a up there with our military. And if you want longer vacations become your own boss. Make your own company. Thats what America is all about. It isnt a free ride and pay all your money to the undeserving.
Again, I don't know if you are being serious. This is all out of your ass up here. Do you understand that people have it better than us or not? People have found a system, not based around God at all, and things are better... do you get that? Higher taxes and less God gives better results all around for them. This obviously isn't getting through whatsoever.

And I'm not a democrat by the way.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:36 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I doubt this guy realizes that citizens living under socialist governments worldwide enjoy some of the highest standards of living on earth. They have longer vacations than us, longer lifespans, work less hours a week, have lower crime rates, higher rates of educated people, lower pollution, more political parties than two (ie democracy), more social programs, and above all HIGHER TAXES.

Hmm Wow those people also don't enjoy the fruit of there labors. I would much rather put my money where I want it to go than into the goverment. And considering how most of these so called "high standards" of living dont compare to the poorest of the poor here shows how good they really are. I know your all excited at the thought of a TAX RAISE! You democrats love to take from the rich to give to the poor yet you dont seem to donate your own money to helping them. It only works if you can steal other peoples money. And lower pollution just means the goverment doesnt give them enough for multiple cars. And you can be sure you'll never see a company in a socialist country in the Fortune 500. Also you cant have more than 1 type of goverment when the country is socialism. If its so great why dont you just move there? I dont see very many socialist countries with a space program, or a up there with our military. And if you want longer vacations become your own boss. Make your own company. Thats what America is all about. It isnt a free ride and pay all your money to the undeserving.
Again, I don't know if you are being serious. This is all out of your ass up here. Do you understand that people have it better than us or not? People have found a system, not based around God at all, and things are better... do you get that? Higher taxes and less God gives better results all around for them. This obviously isn't getting through whatsoever.

And I'm not a democrat by the way.

are you kiddding? people have it better than here? THEN WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO COME INTO THE UNITED STATES???? wow, yeah higher taxes are good what the heck... what people have it better than us? i would love for you to point them out. maybe the people who are being gassed by their government? the one;s that are being tortured by their government? Or maybe the one's that have to pay off bribe's to police so they are not held on false acusations. Let's see maybe the one's who have the highest Aids rate? maybe some where if you drink the water you become sick.. oh please great one, please inform me!!
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I doubt this guy realizes that citizens living under socialist governments worldwide enjoy some of the highest standards of living on earth. They have longer vacations than us, longer lifespans, work less hours a week, have lower crime rates, higher rates of educated people, lower pollution, more political parties than two (ie democracy), more social programs, and above all HIGHER TAXES.

Hmm Wow those people also don't enjoy the fruit of there labors. I would much rather put my money where I want it to go than into the goverment. And considering how most of these so called "high standards" of living dont compare to the poorest of the poor here shows how good they really are. I know your all excited at the thought of a TAX RAISE! You democrats love to take from the rich to give to the poor yet you dont seem to donate your own money to helping them. It only works if you can steal other peoples money. And lower pollution just means the goverment doesnt give them enough for multiple cars. And you can be sure you'll never see a company in a socialist country in the Fortune 500. Also you cant have more than 1 type of goverment when the country is socialism. If its so great why dont you just move there? I dont see very many socialist countries with a space program, or a up there with our military. And if you want longer vacations become your own boss. Make your own company. Thats what America is all about. It isnt a free ride and pay all your money to the undeserving.
Again, I don't know if you are being serious. This is all out of your ass up here. Do you understand that people have it better than us or not? People have found a system, not based around God at all, and things are better... do you get that? Higher taxes and less God gives better results all around for them. This obviously isn't getting through whatsoever.

And I'm not a democrat by the way.

are you kiddding? people have it better than here? THEN WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO COME INTO THE UNITED STATES???? wow, yeah higher taxes are good what the heck... what people have it better than us? i would love for you to point them out. maybe the people who are being gassed by their government? the one;s that are being tortured by their government? Or maybe the one's that have to pay off bribe's to police so they are not held on false acusations. Let's see maybe the one's who have the highest Aids rate? maybe some where if you drink the water you become sick.. oh please great one, please inform me!!

People want to come here because a lot of people have it far worse too. That doesn't mean we can't look to our superiors and learn.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:03 AM   #47 (permalink)
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yeah i was still waiting ong which countries are 'superior', i use that term very very loosley, to us.

EDIT: we'll in a different part of the forums you said scandavia coutnries. well here ya go.

"yeah screw them, here is something which i strongly feel is a problem and it looks as if it is rubbing off here in america "gay marriage was legalized in Scandinavia, marriage itself has virtually ceased to exist." (http://www.wanttoknow.info/visionsofarmageddon)

oh yeah btw about this awsome health care issue..

"As is the case in the other Scandinavian countries, Norway has a National Health Care System. All Norwegians are insured through this system and it is financed through compulsory taxation. Unlike the United Kingdom, the private health care sector is very small, limited to a few clinics, mainly in the Oslo area. These clinics provide supplementary health care. It is, however, not possible for a Norwegian citizen to opt out of the National Health Care System and buy his or her own private health insurance.

During the past few years there have been a number of mass media reports of patients being denied presumed beneficial health care by the system. The system continues to suffer from long waiting lists. Even though the Government has introduced a 'waiting list guarantee' which gives patients with certain conditions a guarantee that they will be treated within 6 months, there has only been a small reduction in the number of patients with these conditions who have waited longer than 6 months for treatment. The issue of health care resource allocation or rationing has thus entered the public debate, as it has in most other countries."


humm seems like we have alot to learn from them "

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yeah i was still waiting ong which countries are 'superior', i use that term very very loosley, to us.

EDIT: we'll in a different part of the forums you said scandavia coutnries. well here ya go.

"yeah screw them, here is something which i strongly feel is a problem and it looks as if it is rubbing off here in america "gay marriage was legalized in Scandinavia, marriage itself has virtually ceased to exist." (http://www.wanttoknow.info/visionsofarmageddon)

oh yeah btw about this awsome health care issue..

"As is the case in the other Scandinavian countries, Norway has a National Health Care System. All Norwegians are insured through this system and it is financed through compulsory taxation. Unlike the United Kingdom, the private health care sector is very small, limited to a few clinics, mainly in the Oslo area. These clinics provide supplementary health care. It is, however, not possible for a Norwegian citizen to opt out of the National Health Care System and buy his or her own private health insurance.

During the past few years there have been a number of mass media reports of patients being denied presumed beneficial health care by the system. The system continues to suffer from long waiting lists. Even though the Government has introduced a 'waiting list guarantee' which gives patients with certain conditions a guarantee that they will be treated within 6 months, there has only been a small reduction in the number of patients with these conditions who have waited longer than 6 months for treatment. The issue of health care resource allocation or rationing has thus entered the public debate, as it has in most other countries."


humm seems like we have alot to learn from them "

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So I guess all that "poor care" means they have a lower life expectancy right? Wrong again. People in Norway enjoy longer lives, lower crime rates, lower pollution, higher standards of education, longer vacations, shorter work weeks, and a better overall life than we do in America.

We do have a lot to learn.
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I for one wouldnt want this "longer" life if I couldnt get help because the goverments pretend health care.
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I for one wouldnt want this "longer" life if I couldnt get help because the goverments pretend health care.
Everyone gets great care over there, that is one of the reasons they live longer than we do. Sure there are a few cons, but there have to be if the system is going to work for ALL people. 30-40 million people don't have any health coverage at all in this country.
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