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Old 10-25-2006, 03:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Oh okay. Tumors then. Let's spend 25 million of something that causes brain tumors. Is that better now? Man you guys are funny.
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You cry-baby liberals buy into the hype that Stem Cells cure Parkinson's Disease. In fact, it has become your heart-felt mantra!
Hmmm. Maybe I should adopt a "Jefferson" tactic to deal with this...
QUOTE where I said that "Stem Cells cure Parkinson's Disease".

If you can't, then you're a liar!!!


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But there's no evidence to support that claim. NONE. Even the American Medical Association doesn't make the claim YOU make.
They state that it CAN HELP people with Parkinson's.
They have studies that SHOW it helping.

And all you whine about is "curing" and "proof" that it cures...


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Then you say "it shows signs of promise in monkeys".
Do you have any clue how medical research is ACTUALLY done in the first place?
Or are you woefully ignorant of everything in general?

Animal testing is often the precursor to human application.
I seriously don't get how you don't just die of embarrassment at times with the things you say.

I guess ignorance truly is bliss for some...
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:12 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Maybe I should adopt a "Jefferson" tactic to deal with this...
QUOTE where I said that "Stem Cells cure Parkinson's Disease".

If you can't, then you're a liar!!!



They state that it CAN HELP people with Parkinson's.
They have studies that SHOW it helping.

And all you whine about is "curing" and "proof" that it cures...



Do you have any clue how medical research is ACTUALLY done in the first place?
Or are you woefully ignorant of everything in general?

Animal testing is often the precursor to human application.
I seriously don't get how you don't just die of embarrassment at times with the things you say.

I guess ignorance truly is bliss for some...
Let's take what we know. We know we have spent 25 million alone in California and have found that stem cells injected into the brains of rats causes tumors. What else do we know? Nothing.
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Hmmm. Maybe I should adopt a "Jefferson" tactic to deal with this...
QUOTE where I said that "Stem Cells cure Parkinson's Disease".

If you can't, then you're a liar!!!

They state that it CAN HELP people with Parkinson's.
They have studies that SHOW it helping.

And all you whine about is "curing" and "proof" that it cures...

Do you have any clue how medical research is ACTUALLY done in the first place?
Or are you woefully ignorant of everything in general?

Animal testing is often the precursor to human application.
I seriously don't get how you don't just die of embarrassment at times with the things you say.

I guess ignorance truly is bliss for some...
So I ask you to give some evidence that Stem Cells are curing Parkinson's Disease - a constant claim of you liberals.

You provide me a link about how Stem Cells MIGHT be helping MONKEYS. Hear that? MONKEYS!


And yet again... NOTHING to back up your claim.

Pathetic.
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So I ask you to give some evidence that Stem Cells are curing Parkinson's Disease - a constant claim of you liberals.
Who here has claimed that Jefferson?
WHO?

I sure as heck haven't. I have repeatedly stated that, and I think you comprehend that as you specifically say "claim of you liberals"...

And furthermore, WHY should I have to prove something that I HAVE NOT EVER CLAIMED???
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:46 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Let's get back to the issue which is Michael J. Fox. He now admits he stops his medication before public appearances so his shaking is more noticable. That is playing the sympathy card. Discuss the topic on its merits. Democrats shoud quit using "victims" that cannot be challenged to push thier agendas. The truth is there is no evidence of stem cells curing anything. The truth also is that Talent is not against stem cell research. Michael J Fox is a liar.
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Actor Michael J. Fox starred in a controversial campaign commercial aired in St. Louis during the World Series backing Missouri State Auditor Claire McCaskill (D) in her bid for Missouri state Senate vs Rep. Jim Talent. Fox, who suffers from advanced Parkinson’s Disease, supports the Missouri initiative for stem cell research.

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This is just too funny to me. How many other people watched Michael J. Fox play a conservative on a sitcom when he was younger? I'm sorry, I just find it funny he turned out to be a Dem. I wonder how much it bothered him to play a conservative.
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The simple truth of the matter is as follows: (1) There is no restriction on the use of Adult Stem Cells in research. Why are we not spending money on a proven method that has verifiable results. (2) There exists several lines of Embryonic stem cells in which research can be conducted, however, the President has stated he is against funding for any research that would require new cell lines to be developed. (3) Jim Talent supports the study of human stem cells, and the use of funding for the existing embryonic stem cells, but will not support the use of funding for creating new lines.

Furthermore, since the Missouri laws states that life begins at conception, it would seem that Talent is acting in accordance with the law of his state, which reflects the views of its people.

As far as Michael J Fox goes, he should be questioned to his motives. He deliberately stopped taking his medication so that his shakes would be more noticeable when filming this ad for a Democrat. Since Mr Fox is a public person, his motivates and his statements are open to criticism. He made his disease an issue, and as such, it is now open for discussion and challenge. The victim card cannot be played.

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Let's get back to the issue which is Michael J. Fox. He now admits he stops his medication before public appearances so his shaking is more noticable. That is playing the sympathy card.
Considering how many times "your" side puts up photos of aborted fetuses, your claim rings hollow and hypocritical.

Why don't you talk to Jefferson and Observer about how "playing the sympathy card" is something to condemn another person for.

The nerve of Michael J Fox. Showing the public he is sick!
Don't people like him, and the handicapped for another example, know that their infirmities shouldn't trouble the rest of us "normal" folk?
(And that works on you on MULTIPLE levels alias...)
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Discuss the topic on its merits. Democrats shoud quit using "victims" that cannot be challenged to push thier agendas. The truth is there is no evidence of stem cells curing anything. The truth also is that Talent is not against stem cell research. Michael J Fox is a liar.
The truth is that there is PLENTY of evidence showing that stem cells WILL HELP people, and NO good reason why we shouldn't do stem cell research. Both adult and embryonic.

But of course, all we hear over and over again is this tired line of "not curing anything", in and amongst lies about "cancer" from you alias.
Oh my. Alias lied and is now complaining Fox lied. Hmmmm...
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The simple truth of the matter is as follows: (1) There is no restriction on the use of Adult Stem Cells in research. Why are we not spending money on a proven method that has verifiable results.
We aren't spending money on adult stem cell research?
That's news to me...


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(2) There exists several lines of Embryonic stem cells in which research can be conducted, however, the President has stated he is against funding for any research that would require new cell lines to be developed.
The IVF legislation was about EXISTING material, where most of it would either go in the trash. For the government to fully support Adult Stem cell research, and then balk at this other non-abortion resource makes no sense.


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(3) Jim Talent supports the study of human stem cells, and the use of funding for the existing embryonic stem cells, but will not support the use of funding for creating new lines.
I haven't fully read his position on the issue.
Does he support Bush's rejection of the recent IVF sourced stem cell funding?


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Furthermore, since the Missouri laws states that life begins at conception, it would seem that Talent is acting in accordance with the law of his state, which reflects the views of its people.
Oh come now.
Surely you don't need me to point out that "the law" doesn't always reflect the will of the people...


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As far as Michael J Fox goes, he should be questioned to his motives. He deliberately stopped taking his medication so that his shakes would be more noticeable when filming this ad for a Democrat. Since Mr Fox is a public person, his motivates and his statements are open to criticism. He made his disease an issue, and as such, it is now open for discussion and challenge. The victim card cannot be played.
Why not?

We're talking about curing a disease?

Anti-abortionists are fond of showing pictures of aborted fetuses.
Why can't Michael J Fox show people EXACTLY what his disease entails?
His "motives" seem obvious. Show the people what the disease is about.
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