alias

LOL. See! There is always something that 2 people can agree on. The world is okay.

tyreay

I never said they weren't trying to buy democratic votes. You blew off my comparision like it hasn't already happened. It did.
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Courting the Devout
What G.O.P. operatives are doing to get scandal-weary but vital Christian conservatives to the polls
By MIKE ALLEN / WASHINGTON
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Posted Sunday, Oct. 22, 2006
They stayed at home in large numbers instead of voting in the 2000 election, or so Karl Rove has always maintained. They came out for President Bush in 2004 and were key to his re-election, or so they like to claim. Now, just weeks before the Nov. 7 midterm congressional elections, one of the last unknowns of a wild and potentially historic campaign season is: What will Christian conservatives do this time?

With polls suggesting an increased likelihood that Republicans may lose one or both houses of Congress, G.O.P. strategists calculate that a calamitous Category 5 election might be tamed to a merely scary Category 4 if they can somehow conjure a solid turnout of evangelical voters, the white suburbanites who fill the megachurches and can usually be counted on even in light-turnout elections like midterms. Party operatives plan to devote the election's closing weeks to courting Christians more intensely than any other single stripe of the electorate, all but begging the parishioners to give them one more chance even after the Foley scandal.

Leaders of Christian-conservative lobbying organizations are going along with the G.O.P. push, despite their misgivings about Mark Foley, the now resigned Republican Florida Congressman caught sending lewd e-mails to teenage pages, and the lackadaisical response by the House leadership. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, last week told listeners of his radio program, carried on 1,000 stations in the U.S., "Yes, what Mark Foley did was wrong, but it is still important to go to the polls and let our voices be heard ... Take about five people with you and vote. It would be a sin not to." The Family Research Council has been e-mailing "No Time to Be Complacent" bulletins and held a Liberty Sunday turnout rally at the base of Boston's Beacon Hill that was televised to hundreds of church-fellowship halls, evening services and small-group meetings. These leaders have calculated that remaining aloof would just diminish their power. "You only gain clout by activity," says Michael Farris, chairman of the Home School Legal Defense Association. His group plans to send hundreds of teenagers who are home schooled to 10 states in the election's closing week to make phone calls and knock on doors on behalf of conservative candidates.

Like many of his supporters, though, Farris has over time become a more reluctant warrior for the G.O.P. Polls of white evangelical Protestants show that their support for the Republican Party grew substantially from 1999 to 2004, then began a steady decline. An October poll by the Pew Research Center found that just 42% of Evangelicals thought that "governs in an honest and ethical way" described the Republican Party better than the Democratic Party. Also, 31% said they intended to vote for a Democrat, up from the 22% who voted for John Kerry in 2004.

TIME.com: Courting the Devout -- Oct. 30, 2006 -- Page 1

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

Jefferson

Not even REMOTELY the same thing!


A Christian organization - that most people ignore - is encouraging its followers to take people with them to vote. Big frikkin' deal. How different is that then the GOP and DNC both saying the exact same thing.

On the OTHER hand, you have people wanting to give out free vaccinations - at voting stations - to blacks and hispanics. THEY'RE BUYING VOTES FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

chrisg967

1. THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO VOTE TO GET THE VACCINE, therefore they were not buying votes for anyone.

2. The program has been offered since 1996. There were a total 26 health departments this year providing vaccines near polling places, only one of which seems to have cancelled their vaccination clinic:

* Clinica Sierra Vista Grand Forks CA

* Central Coast VNA and Hospice Monterey CA

* San Francisco Department of Public Health San Francisco CA

* Garfield County Public Health Rifle CO

* VNA of Southeastern Connecticut Waterford CT

* Jefferson & Madison County Health Departments Monticello Madison FL

* Polk County Health Department Bartow FL

* Lowndes County Board of Health Valdosta GA

* Louisa County Public Health Wapello IA

* Community Health Center Partners of Sioux County Orange City IA

* Southwest District Health Caldwell ID

* Central District Health Department Boise ID

* Clay County Health Department Flora IL

* Whiteside County Health Department Rock Falls IL

* Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe Cass Lake MN

* Saline County Health Department Marshall MO

* Monroe County Health Department Paris MO

* Lewis & Clark City-County Health Department Helena MT

* Cherokee Indian Hospital Public Health Cherokee NC

* Grand Forks Public Health Department Grand Forks ND

* Omaha Tribe of Nebraska Carl T. Curtis Health Education Center. Macy NE

* Erie Center on Health & Aging Erie PA

* Bethlehem Health Bureau Bethlehem PA

* Galveston County Health District La Marque TX

* City of Houston Dept of Health & Human Services Houston TX

* Tooele County Health Department Tooele UT

Source: Flu Vaccines Provided To Older Adults On Election Day Through 'Vote And Vax' Initiative

3. Can you think of a better way of delivering a needed health service to people who need it???

tyreay

The Democrats were offering to giving poor people flu shots. This is a bad thing?
The only difference is that the Republicans didn't have to give the Christian Groups anything because they are already rich. Same damn thing.
There was talk of revoking some Christian Groups tax exempt status by the Republicans. They used threats. I think it is the same thing, you don't. We don't agree. What else is new.
The Democrats will work with Bush to come up with bi-partisan solutions that the Republicans would never even consider before. Not only have you been saying you were convinced the polls about Bush's unpopularity were bogus, you did it in a insulting and shitty way. Now that the Republicans have lost(proving you were totally wrong) you are being a sore loser and coming up with anything you can. Quite crying about what has already happened.

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Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville

chrisg967

It wasn't the Democrats, it was the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, funding the flu shots for folks over 50 in underserved areas. I have yet to figure out what his (Johnson's) politics are.

intangible child

YouTube - Indian Reservation

They took the whole Cherokee Nation
And put us on this reservation
Took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife

They took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe
So proud to live, so proud to die

They took the whole Indian Nation
And locked us on this reservation
And though I wear a shirt and tie
I’m still a red man deep inside

Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe
So proud to live, so proud to die

But maybe someday when they learn
Cherokee Nation will return
Will return
Will return
Will return
Will return

P.S. I'm white as white can be and I got blue eye's!

In N.C., GOP Requests Church Directories
The North Carolina Republican Party asked its members this week to send their church directories to the party, drawing furious protests from local and national religious leaders.

"Such a request is completely beyond the pale of what is acceptable," said the Rev. Richard Land, head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.
In N.C., GOP Requests Church Directories

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Live the Light, Give the Light,
Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBcwAJZGX...=john%20denver


The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of his friends and advisors, what are we to conclude about George W. Bush:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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Jefferson

I never said they were required to vote before they could get the vaccinations!

IF YOU WANT TO GIVE FREE VACCINATIONS TO BLACKS & HISPANICS, GO TO WHERE THEY LIVE.
IF YOU WANT TO GIVE FREE VACCINATIONS TO ELDERLY PEOPLEE, GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER, NURSING HOMES, OR ASSISTED LIVING HOMES. That is what legitimate organizations do.

HANDING OUT FREEBIES SHOULD NOT BE CONNECTED TO ELECTIONS. PERIOD.

Jefferson

Any more questions?

alias

Exactly. Every republican who lost in a close election did not demand a recount when they were legally entitled to. No republican crying about rigged voting machines. No republican crying about "disenfranchisement".

America voted for change. I hardly would count that as a democrat victory in the 6th year of a republican presidency. In fact, the democrats picked up fewer seats in the 6th year of this republican president than any other. That is hardly a resounding victory.