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11-15-2006, 02:03 PM
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11-15-2006, 02:35 PM
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Level up: 23%, 57 Points needed | | Not sure where the video originally came from. Shows Giuliani has a sense of humor.. I personally think it's funny.
I'm not a Giuliani supporter but don't think this will hurt him.
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Originally Posted by Jefferson  Okay, I officially "don't get it". Is that a joke, or what? | | |
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11-15-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dgridley Not sure where the video originally came from. Shows Giuliani has a sense of humor.. I personally think it's funny.
I'm not a Giuliani supporter but don't think this will hurt him.
By the way, I think Clinton looks like James Spader in your Avatar. | I saw Giuliani on Saturday Night Live several years ago - the episode where he gets punched out by Janet Reno (played by Will Ferrell). He's not a very good actor, but he apparently does have a pretty good sense of humor. | |
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11-15-2006, 05:12 PM
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11-17-2006, 06:32 PM
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Points: 12,146, Level: 72 | Level up: 73%, 304 Points needed | | I think it will hurt him. I don't think it will hurt his career, but certainly his chances for a presidential bid. People in this country, especially after the whole Clinton spiel, are more concerned about the personal lives of our politicians and whether their lives are conducted, in all aspects, to the conformity of a 'good moral and sincere person.' Comedy, especially of this type, doesn't play to well with the audience of this -mostly conservative- voting populace which I have described.
As someone that looks toward a person's ability to fulfill his/her office's position as well as their stances on certain issues, this would have absolutely no sway with me on whether I would vote for him or not. But unfortunately not all voters are this way. If they were, as alias claims, then Republicans wouldn't have to resign or lose substantial support (indeed from their own party) simply on the basis of them "coming out" and saying they're gay or revealing that they have 'cheated' or something of the sort (or getting caught).
So although this was just a joke and many people might have done such a thing for a laugh, and I'm sure it says nothing about the capability of Giuliani as a leader, there is the persona with the American voter (especially conservative base) that politicians should be above such things.
So, although it might not hurt his chances to win the general election all that much, it will certainly hurt his relationship with the Republican base, and it will definitely hurt his chances in the Republican primaries.
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11-17-2006, 10:56 PM
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Points: 25,380, Level: 96 | Level up: 97%, 970 Points needed | | The conservative base is not for Guliani that's for sure. But, if he can get the power and make some deals, they will vote for him if he says and DOES the right things to show he will bend. He's tough on crime and terrorism. Those are big issues. I believe conservatives will vote for him before they will vote for that idiot from Arizona, McCain. I wouldn't trust him any more than Hillary. He's a snake. I talk to lots of conservatives and they despise him. He's a liar and two-faced. He'll say anything and act so sweat and then stab you in the back.
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11-18-2006, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by alias The conservative base is not for Guliani that's for sure. But, if he can get the power and make some deals, they will vote for him if he says and DOES the right things to show he will bend. He's tough on crime and terrorism. Those are big issues. I believe conservatives will vote for him before they will vote for that idiot from Arizona, McCain. I wouldn't trust him any more than Hillary. He's a snake. I talk to lots of conservatives and they despise him. He's a liar and two-faced. He'll say anything and act so sweat and then stab you in the back. | You're probably right. What you said about McCain goes both ways I believe, with the right and with the left. I think, just like Hillary, he tries to be 'in the center' too much. In other words, he'll support some conservative things as well as some liberal things, but instead of making everyone like him, it makes everyone despise him. I can't stand Hillary for this same reason. She supports some liberal issues, but because of some other things she supports; I just can't bring my conscious up to casting a vote for her.
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11-18-2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky You're probably right. What you said about McCain goes both ways I believe, with the right and with the left. I think, just like Hillary, he tries to be 'in the center' too much. In other words, he'll support some conservative things as well as some liberal things, but instead of making everyone like him, it makes everyone despise him. I can't stand Hillary for this same reason. She supports some liberal issues, but because of some other things she supports; I just can't bring my conscious up to casting a vote for her. | Well waddya know, we have something in common, we both dislike McCain and Hillary. LOL. They'll probably end up being the candidates. | |
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11-18-2006, 07:10 PM
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If you can support Giuliani should your mouth about Clinton.
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