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Old 01-08-2007, 05:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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By who? McCain? Please! He's very unelectable to the general voting population.

Obama might not be the best candidate for president in the world, but to be quite realistic, the Republicans don't have that great of a selection either.
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The stupidity and gullibility of some of our members shows to be quite evident today.

We never believe junk email, let alone politically-motivated mass-emails that has "No source and no ability to verify", unless of coarse it in some way bashes a liberal! Then of coarse it has the morality of truth and righteousness to it's disposition as a precondition.

Despite the fact that religious affiliation is irrelevant, it would beseech you to learn that Barack Obama is a self-described Christian, and his whole family are members of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. But of coarse now, for conservatives, I guess their own overconfidence biases are too comforting to actually look up what is true.

If I were so soaked in my own self-confidence bias and moral arrogance as the author of this email and it's subsequent obedient and gullible subscribers, I could just as easily send out an overly-paranoid letter that Dick Cheney is a nihilist and that his joining of the Methodist Church is just an attempt at consolidating political support. But it doesn't make it anymore true.
That's interesting, because the United Church of Christ happens to be the same denomination our very own Trista belongs to.

I wonder if Obama has ever intentionally lied to the American Red Cross?
I wonder what other dis-honest, despicable and cowardly things Obama may have done.

That does, after all, seem to be the behavior of members of the United Church of Christ.


No... this does not bode well for Obama. He would be better off to claim Islam as his religion.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I think Obama has a much better chance in the primary, and would be stunning at the convention and that many powerful Democrats know this. They also know that Hillary carries a load of baggage they don't really want dredged up.

Personally, I think Obama has a great chance of becoming the next President. There are too many people who vote without any knowledge at all, just impressions they get from the media, and Obama is a rock star to the media.

Unless, of course, Hillary manages to destroy him, or the media turns on him. The media wants to pick the president. They have the power to destroy, like they did Dean, and Allen.
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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At this point, I don't think Obama has enough experience to be president, no matter what his religion.
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I think Obama has a much better chance in the primary, and would be stunning at the convention and that many powerful Democrats know this. 1. They also know that Hillary carries a load of baggage they don't really want dredged up.

2. Personally, I think Obama has a great chance of becoming the next President. There are too many people who vote without any knowledge at all, just impressions they get from the media, and Obama is a rock star to the media.

Unless, of course, Hillary manages to destroy him, or the media turns on him. 3. The media wants to pick the president. They have the power to destroy, like they did Dean, and Allen.
1. You have no business talking abou Hillary's thighs. Now stop it!
2. I don't think he'll get through the primaries. His "loving" fellow Democrats will smear him so badly that even IF he gets through the primaries, he'll be a walking wounded in the general election. That's what has been very interesting about the DNC as of late.
3. Dang, you sure got that one right!!!
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At this point, I don't think Obama has enough experience to be president, no matter what his religion.
I think you're right about the irrelvance of his religion. And I think you're right about him not being elected President. But I'm not sure it's about experience.
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I don't think the electorate cares much about experience, they want NEW, they want CUTE and they want a DEMOCRAT who isn't HILLARY!

I'm watching to see who the Republicans offer up to sacrifice.... Who and what will be destroyed along the campaign trail by advocates and media. The media can crucify anyone...it's so easy. Howard Dean showed a bit of enthusiasm and they crucified him every day, all channels, doomed his chances....and I'm not a Dean fan, but that was such a job they did on him. Allen got the same treatment.... One arrogant flip remark using a term I never even heard before, and he claims he didn't even know what it meant, and the media started reminding everyone everyday, that his campaign was doomed, he was a racist, then his mother was a jew, geez....over and over every day, even on Fox News. It was a disgusting display.

The media decides who they pillory, and they pick the candidates we get to choose from on election day. Watch and see.
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Well, having been here through the Clinton Administration......I'm suspecting Hillary's backers here. They will do almost anything to smear Obama. She was expecting a coronation.

Just because something is unatributed doesn't make it false. Let's see how this thing shakes out. I find Obama charming and engaging, and his promoters will no doubt react to this. These are questions he can't avoid.

His voting record and the network of supporters are also very important. He sounds very moderate, but his votes haven't been so far. I'm sure he's aware of that.

It's certainly interesting that he's being attacked so early. Do you think Hillary wants to face off against Obama in a primary? hehehehe.
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