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01-08-2007, 10:30 AM
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Level up: 86%, 28 Points needed | | Obama - muslim or christian? This was forwarded to me.
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Looks like the Internet Emails are already starting against Obama. No source and no ability to verify.
Subject: Fw: Be Careful, voters
Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.
Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.
Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools.
Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.
--comments by my friend who forwarded to me.
Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.
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01-08-2007, 01:08 PM
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Points: 26,006, Level: 96 | Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed | | Typical lying democrat. Dems have to disguise who they really are to get elected. They did it this time also by running conservative democrats to win the election, but look who is going to chair all the committees? Liberal democrats. The old bait and switch con game and the Americans who voted for them got fooled again. |
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01-08-2007, 02:36 PM
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Points: 21,921, Level: 92 | Level up: 58%, 429 Points needed | | I guess I had assumed, all along, that he was a Muslim. |
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01-08-2007, 02:46 PM
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Country: Points: 16,625, Level: 82 | Level up: 55%, 225 Points needed | | Chop, chop, chop...chop up humanity based on religion, race, culture, and political party. Chop, chop, chop... OD |
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01-08-2007, 03:15 PM
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Country: Points: 15,236, Level: 79 | Level up: 78%, 114 Points needed | | The stupidity and gullibility of some of our members shows to be quite evident today.
We never believe junk email, let alone politically-motivated mass-emails that has "No source and no ability to verify", unless of coarse it in some way bashes a liberal! Then of coarse it has the morality of truth and righteousness to it's disposition as a precondition.
Despite the fact that religious affiliation is irrelevant, it would beseech you to learn that Barack Obama is a self-described Christian, and his whole family are members of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. But of coarse now, for conservatives, I guess their own overconfidence biases are too comforting to actually look up what is true.
If I were so soaked in my own self-confidence bias and moral arrogance as the author of this email and it's subsequent obedient and gullible subscribers, I could just as easily send out an overly-paranoid letter that Dick Cheney is a nihilist and that his joining of the Methodist Church is just an attempt at consolidating political support. But it doesn't make it anymore true.
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01-08-2007, 03:18 PM
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Country: Points: 16,625, Level: 82 | Level up: 55%, 225 Points needed | | With ya on all you say Kat. And you know for the fundapathic Christian it is no longer enough if someone confesses themselves to be of the same, now they have to have an ancestry of the same! So much for embracing converts to "the fold" , all ye good Christian folk. OD |
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01-08-2007, 03:53 PM
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Level up: 86%, 28 Points needed | | Well, having been here through the Clinton Administration......I'm suspecting Hillary's backers here. They will do almost anything to smear Obama. She was expecting a coronation.
Just because something is unatributed doesn't make it false. Let's see how this thing shakes out. I find Obama charming and engaging, and his promoters will no doubt react to this. These are questions he can't avoid.
His voting record and the network of supporters are also very important. He sounds very moderate, but his votes haven't been so far. I'm sure he's aware of that.
It's certainly interesting that he's being attacked so early. Do you think Hillary wants to face off against Obama in a primary? hehehehe.
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01-08-2007, 04:31 PM
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Points: 26,006, Level: 96 | Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed | | You're right. Obama is Hillary's problem, not the republican's problem. |
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01-08-2007, 04:40 PM
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Obama is Hillary's problem, and the Republicans'. Hillary is the Democrats' problem.
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01-08-2007, 06:05 PM
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Points: 26,006, Level: 96 | Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed | | Obama is no problem to the republicans. The republicans are hoping he is the candidate in 2008. That would be just wonderful in my opinion. He would get creamed. |
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