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Originally Posted by sgtdmski But her candidacy will open the door to all those old issues of the 90's, Whitewater, Travelgate, and what she knew and when she knew it. Although I believe that she would be popular with women voters, I also think she could be a liability. If it can be shown that she knew about Bill's infidelities and stayed with him only for her own political gain, I believe that this fact could turn many women against her.
The lies, the corruption and the cronyism of the Clinton era will all become open targets again. As popular as Hilliary may be within the democratic party, she also has those who despise her both within the party and without. A good Republican candidate who can muster the support of the party faithful, and pick up the Hilliary detractors could ride the wave to the White House.
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After unjust elections and the unjust war I think the issues you mentioned above are small potatoes in the mind of voters, both republican and democrat.
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09-10-2005, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski But her candidacy will open the door to all those old issues of the 90's, Whitewater, Travelgate, and what she knew and when she knew it. Although I believe that she would be popular with women voters, I also think she could be a liability. If it can be shown that she knew about Bill's infidelities and stayed with him only for her own political gain, I believe that this fact could turn many women against her.
The lies, the corruption and the cronyism of the Clinton era will all become open targets again. As popular as Hilliary may be within the democratic party, she also has those who despise her both within the party and without. A good Republican candidate who can muster the support of the party faithful, and pick up the Hilliary detractors could ride the wave to the White House.
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After unjust elections and the unjust war I think the issues you mentioned above are small potatoes in the mind of voters, both republican and democrat. | Why The Left Has Lost Credibility
There is much talk of post-election reorganization and rethinking among demoralized liberals, especially in matters of foreign policy. They could start by accepting that the demise of many of their cherished beliefs and institutions was not the fault of others. More often, the problems are fundamental flaws in their own thinking — such as the ends of good intentions justifying the means of expediency and untruth, and forced equality being a higher moral good than individual liberty and freedom. Whether we call such notions “political correctness” or “progressivism,” the practice of privileging race, class, and gender over basic ethical considerations has earned the moralists of the Left not merely hypocrisy, but virtual incoherence. Democratic leaders are never going to be trusted in matters of foreign policy unless they can convince Americans that they once more believe in American exceptionalism and are the proper co-custodians of values such as freedom and individual liberty. If in the 1950s rightists were criticized as cynical Cold Warriors who never met a right-wing thug they wouldn’t support, as long as he mouthed a few anti-Soviet platitudes, then in the last two decades almost any thug from Latin America to the Middle East who professed concern for “the people” — from Castro and the Noriega Brothers to Yasser Arafat and the Iranian mullahs — was likely to earn a pass from the American and European cultural elite and media. To regain credibility, the Left must start to apply the same standard of moral outrage to a number of its favorite causes that it does to the United States government, the corporations, and the Christian Right. Here are a few places to start. |
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski But her candidacy will open the door to all those old issues of the 90's, Whitewater, Travelgate, and what she knew and when she knew it. Although I believe that she would be popular with women voters, I also think she could be a liability. If it can be shown that she knew about Bill's infidelities and stayed with him only for her own political gain, I believe that this fact could turn many women against her.
The lies, the corruption and the cronyism of the Clinton era will all become open targets again. As popular as Hilliary may be within the democratic party, she also has those who despise her both within the party and without. A good Republican candidate who can muster the support of the party faithful, and pick up the Hilliary detractors could ride the wave to the White House.
dmk | After unjust elections and the unjust war I think the issues you mentioned above are small potatoes in the mind of voters, both republican and democrat. | unjust elections?? Bush did lose the popular vote but that's not how the system works. So many people were confused because they didn't know what the electoral college was... |
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09-11-2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski But her candidacy will open the door to all those old issues of the 90's, Whitewater, Travelgate, and what she knew and when she knew it. Although I believe that she would be popular with women voters, I also think she could be a liability. If it can be shown that she knew about Bill's infidelities and stayed with him only for her own political gain, I believe that this fact could turn many women against her.
The lies, the corruption and the cronyism of the Clinton era will all become open targets again. As popular as Hilliary may be within the democratic party, she also has those who despise her both within the party and without. A good Republican candidate who can muster the support of the party faithful, and pick up the Hilliary detractors could ride the wave to the White House.
dmk | After unjust elections and the unjust war I think the issues you mentioned above are small potatoes in the mind of voters, both republican and democrat. | unjust elections?? Bush did lose the popular vote but that's not how the system works. So many people were confused because they didn't know what the electoral college was... | Hillary will bask in the attention only to turn her back on the faithful. Why? Because like Al Gore she knows she can't win.
Since being elected to the Senate in 2000, Hillary has lavished her attention on core liberal constituencies and causes. She opposed the popular repeal of the death tax; President Bush's much needed tax relief - after her husband admitted, "I raised your taxes too much" - and the nomination to Attorney General of the man who is rounding up terrorists within our midst, John Ashcroft.
In March 2001 Hillary joined Senator Ted Kennedy (MA) as co-sponsor of a new Equal Rights Amendment to the Constitution. Last June, she co-sponsored a bill to add "sexual orientation" as a protected class in the Senate's own employment practices. No wonder the far-left Americans for Democratic Action has given her a 95 percent approval rating.
After eight years of observing Bill shake down donors, Hillary has mastered the time-honored practice of raising cash. While she was publicly posturing for campaign finance reform, her political action committee raised a whopping $3.2 million during the 2002 election cycle. And behind closed doors she sparred with the bill's sponsor, Senator Russ Feingold, who actually wants to see the law enforced. "Russ, live in the real world!" she snapped, underscoring the Democrat belief that reforms are something to be advocated, not adhered to.
While she voted in favor of the congressional authorization of action against Iraq, she condemned "the arrogance of American power." Reminiscent of the old Soviet economic planners, Commissar Clinton tells liberal audiences that "a tax cut is not a substitute for an economic plan," and resorts to Bush-bashing by insisting that the administration's opposition to the flawed Kyoto environmental treaty is "a global license to pollute."
Hillary received a grade of "F" from the non-partisan National Taxpayers Union for proposing $37.5 billion in new federal programs and income transfers. She sponsored 74 different bills in 2001 to increase spending.
The Clintons have always had a shameless capacity for self-advancement. Hillary condemned Trent Lott's birthday tribute to Strom Thurmond as "offensive and divisive" but remained silent about her husband's awarding of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to former segregationist Senator William Fulbright, a man whom Bill Clinton lauded as a "visionary humanitarian."
Hillary has her hands full defending her short Senate record. She doesn't need the added burden of explaining leaked FBI files, fundraisers at Buddhist temples, obstruction of justice charges, and more. When Democrat activists clamor for a Clinton encore in the presidential primaries, Hillary, like Mario, will exit stage left. |
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09-11-2005, 08:25 PM
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New Poll Suggests Support For Hillary 2008 Presidential Run
May 26, 2005 5:58 p.m. EST
Jasen K Lee - All Headline News Staff Reporter
(AHN) – One the same day Senator Hillary Clinton [D-NY] gets a new challenge for her current job, she finds out some Americans might like to see her take a run at another Job.
Edward Cox, the son-in-law of President Richard Nixon, says he will oppose Senator Clinton in her re-election bid despite overwhelming support among likely New York voters. However, the vast majority of respondents want her to vow to serve out her term in the Senate, if re-elected.
A CNN/USA Today/Gallup telephone survey finds 29 percent of 1,009 adults questioned are very likely to vote for Senator Clinton for President in 2008 and 24 percent say they are somewhat likely, while 7 percent are not very likely, with 39 percent saying they were not at all likely to support her. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 5-percent.
Despite her controversial profile, the survey also finds 55 percent have a positive or favorable view of Senator Clinton, while 39 percent have a negative opinion.
Regarding whether they would vote for a woman for the nation’s highest office, 32 percent say they would be very likely, 41 percent say somewhat likely, while 9 percent respond not very likely, and 11 percent say not at all likely.
Clinton has yet to confirm if she will run for President in 2008.
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09-12-2005, 06:09 PM
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Level up: 31%, 108 Points needed | | Someone really needs to tell Hillary to shut up and sit down The Clinton's are well known for ignoring laws and running things the way they want to. But this Hillary telling Bush how things are, and complaining about 'I'd never have hired such a man' is just getting to be WAY too much.
In the first place, she has no say in the matter, and to be frank, her opinion doesn't matter. can you imagine anyone buying into her spiel? Even the Dem's I've spoken to admit how fake it is. Well the ones who weren't ashamed admitted it. I'm quite sure that anyone with above a toddler's understanding of body language and sincerity would know this is ridiculous.
Someone really needs to tell Hillary to shut up and sit down. this is the same inappropriate, out of place rambling she did when she caused the Iraqi government to get upset. She needs to be put in check, and blasted for this.
Ironically all you hear from her is the republican attack machine. Rather familiar now isn't it?
Anyone who doesn't think she was vying for a presidential bid need only understand her whining about FEMA. She wouldn't have hired anyone like that? She' s never, and will never have the chance. that's a job the president does. not some bitter old woman that can't keep her mouth shut. |
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09-12-2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle The Clinton's are well known for ignoring laws and running things the way they want to. But this Hillary telling Bush how things are, and complaining about 'I'd never have hired such a man' is just getting to be WAY too much.
In the first place, she has no say in the matter, and to be frank, her opinion doesn't matter. can you imagine anyone buying into her spiel? Even the Dem's I've spoken to admit how fake it is. Well the ones who weren't ashamed admitted it. I'm quite sure that anyone with above a toddler's understanding of body language and sincerity would know this is ridiculous.
Someone really needs to tell Hillary to shut up and sit down. this is the same inappropriate, out of place rambling she did when she caused the Iraqi government to get upset. She needs to be put in check, and blasted for this.
Ironically all you hear from her is the republican attack machine. Rather familiar now isn't it?
Anyone who doesn't think she was vying for a presidential bid need only understand her whining about FEMA. She wouldn't have hired anyone like that? She' s never, and will never have the chance. that's a job the president does. not some bitter old woman that can't keep her mouth shut. | Brown resigned...just stirring the pot. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/kat...act/index.html
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Originally Posted by aMFliberal Quote: |
Originally Posted by bullwinkle The Clinton's are well known for ignoring laws and running things the way they want to. But this Hillary telling Bush how things are, and complaining about 'I'd never have hired such a man' is just getting to be WAY too much.
In the first place, she has no say in the matter, and to be frank, her opinion doesn't matter. can you imagine anyone buying into her spiel? Even the Dem's I've spoken to admit how fake it is. Well the ones who weren't ashamed admitted it. I'm quite sure that anyone with above a toddler's understanding of body language and sincerity would know this is ridiculous.
Someone really needs to tell Hillary to shut up and sit down. this is the same inappropriate, out of place rambling she did when she caused the Iraqi government to get upset. She needs to be put in check, and blasted for this.
Ironically all you hear from her is the republican attack machine. Rather familiar now isn't it?
Anyone who doesn't think she was vying for a presidential bid need only understand her whining about FEMA. She wouldn't have hired anyone like that? She' s never, and will never have the chance. that's a job the president does. not some bitter old woman that can't keep her mouth shut. | Brown resigned...just stirring the pot. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/kat...act/index.html | Good for him. |
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle The Clinton's are well known for ignoring laws and running things the way they want to. But this Hillary telling Bush how things are, and complaining about 'I'd never have hired such a man' is just getting to be WAY too much.
In the first place, she has no say in the matter, and to be frank, her opinion doesn't matter. can you imagine anyone buying into her spiel? Even the Dem's I've spoken to admit how fake it is. Well the ones who weren't ashamed admitted it. I'm quite sure that anyone with above a toddler's understanding of body language and sincerity would know this is ridiculous.
Someone really needs to tell Hillary to shut up and sit down. this is the same inappropriate, out of place rambling she did when she caused the Iraqi government to get upset. She needs to be put in check, and blasted for this.
Ironically all you hear from her is the republican attack machine. Rather familiar now isn't it?
Anyone who doesn't think she was vying for a presidential bid need only understand her whining about FEMA. She wouldn't have hired anyone like that? She' s never, and will never have the chance. that's a job the president does. not some bitter old woman that can't keep her mouth shut. | Brown resigned...just stirring the pot. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/kat...act/index.html | Good for him. |
No, good for us!
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle The Clinton's are well known for ignoring laws and running things the way they want to. But this Hillary telling Bush how things are, and complaining about 'I'd never have hired such a man' is just getting to be WAY too much.
In the first place, she has no say in the matter, and to be frank, her opinion doesn't matter. can you imagine anyone buying into her spiel? Even the Dem's I've spoken to admit how fake it is. Well the ones who weren't ashamed admitted it. I'm quite sure that anyone with above a toddler's understanding of body language and sincerity would know this is ridiculous.
Someone really needs to tell Hillary to shut up and sit down. this is the same inappropriate, out of place rambling she did when she caused the Iraqi government to get upset. She needs to be put in check, and blasted for this.
Ironically all you hear from her is the republican attack machine. Rather familiar now isn't it?
Anyone who doesn't think she was vying for a presidential bid need only understand her whining about FEMA. She wouldn't have hired anyone like that? She' s never, and will never have the chance. that's a job the president does. not some bitter old woman that can't keep her mouth shut. | Brown resigned...just stirring the pot. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/kat...act/index.html | Good for him. |
No, good for us! | indeed... |
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