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Old 09-16-2005, 02:34 AM   #51 (permalink)
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What I want to know is what happened to my post where I responded to his question about why the war is unjust?!
Please repost it, I would liek the opprotunity to read it and then respond/challenge it.

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Old 09-16-2005, 10:46 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Yes unjust. People's votes being blocked because of race by your own campaign. VERY VERY VERY UNJUST.

Calling out the military record of someone who served in the war when you avoided the very same war... YES, VERY VERY UNJUST.

Keep saying "yeah right" though. I think it is pretty cute that someone could be that stuck in their ideology to escape reality.
Show me proof of one documented case of someone being denied the right to vote because of their race, and only their race.

Kerry was the one who brought his Vietnam record into the race, are we to ignore it???? Don't blame his screw on us, he was the one who looked at the camera and said Reporting for Duty. Well we reported as well, and I guess we were just better at it than him. Again not are fault.

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Kerry fought in the war Bush avoided. Who wouldn't bring that up?

The proof of voter fraud could have been obtained if the 13 members of the House of Representatives, who objected to the receiving of Florida's electoral votes, would have been heard.

But corruption is deeply rooted in our government from its very conception. That is why 50% of Americans feel the will of the people is not served.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:30 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Voter Fauid became commonplace
voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Old 09-16-2005, 04:15 PM   #54 (permalink)
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
Old 09-16-2005, 04:27 PM   #55 (permalink)
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
And how do you plan to go about that?

People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:31 PM   #56 (permalink)
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
And how do you plan to go about that?

People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening.

The way to implement more parties is at the bottom of every one of my posts
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
And how do you plan to go about that?

People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening.
Have you ever read, even one of Hevusa's posts?
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:36 PM   #58 (permalink)
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
And how do you plan to go about that?

People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening.

The way to implement more parties is at the bottom of every one of my posts
But how will that help, maybe you should explain this to me. It said to rank the politicians but arent the Liberals going to rank the Liberals high and the Republicans going to rank the Republicans high? I probably need you to explain this to me.
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
And how do you plan to go about that?

People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening.

The way to implement more parties is at the bottom of every one of my posts
But how will that help, maybe you should explain this to me. It said to rank the politicians but arent the Liberals going to rank the Liberals high and the Republicans going to rank the Republicans high? I probably need you to explain this to me.
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:01 PM   #60 (permalink)
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voiter fauid commonplace many years ago. Voter fraud is used by both parties in all elections. Dead people have been voting for years, and so have peoples pets, illegal aliens, you name a way to fradulently vote, and it is being done everywhere.

There is no cure for it, only a battle against it. Unfortunately to many people on both sides are against a large part of the battle, which is to require valid ID when voting.
Which is also a great argument to implement more parties than just two.
And how do you plan to go about that?

People are so stuck between Liberal and Conservative, I could never see this happening.

The way to implement more parties is at the bottom of every one of my posts
But how will that help, maybe you should explain this to me. It said to rank the politicians but arent the Liberals going to rank the Liberals high and the Republicans going to rank the Republicans high? I probably need you to explain this to me.

Let me make a hypothetical scenario so you can have some insight into how IRV can promote more than two parties.

Let's say Oscar the grouch, Ms. Piggy and Kermit were running for office. Oscar is a republican canidate , Ms. Piggy democrat and Kermit is with the green party that care for the environment very much.

Now Oscar is an evil asshole who you really don't want to see in office but your favorite canidate Kermit, who stands for what you believe in, doesn't have as much support as Oscar's main competition Ms. Piggy. In essence a vote for your favorite canidate is giving evil Oscar that much more of a chance to get in office. This is the so called spoiler vote syndrome.

IRV would allow you to rank Kermit 1st, Ms. Piggy 2nd, and Oscar 3rd. If Kermit doesn't get enough of the overall vote your vote counts towards Ms. Piggy and does not help Oscar. This would promote voting for what you believe in and not what you are afraid of or against someone. It would level the playing field for 3rd parties and unlock the centralized power the democrats and republicans currently enjoy.
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
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