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Old 07-17-2008, 01:47 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Read the article.

It isn't debateable. Over 600 scientist agree that global warming is taking place.

The only scientists that disagree are being paid by ExxonMobil. Coincidence? I doubt it.

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"There was an extraordinary campaign by the denial machine to find and hire scientists to sow dissent and make it appear that the research community was deeply divided," says Dan Becker of the Sierra Club. Those recruits blitzed the media. Driven by notions of fairness and objectivity, the press "qualified every mention of human influence on climate change with 'some scientists believe,' where the reality is that the vast preponderance of scientific opinion accepts that human-caused [greenhouse] emissions are contributing to warming," says Reilly, the former EPA chief. "The pursuit of balance has not done justice" to the science. Talk radio goes further, with Rush Limbaugh telling listeners this year that "more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is not likely to significantly contribute to the greenhouse effect. It's just all part of the hoax." In the new NEWSWEEK Poll, 42 percent said the press "exaggerates the threat of climate change."
Now naysayers tried a new tactic: lists and petitions meant to portray science as hopelessly divided. Just before Kyoto, S. Fred Singer released the "Leipzig Declaration on Global Climate Change." Singer, who fled Nazi-occupied Austria as a boy, had run the U.S. weather-satellite program in the early 1960s. In the Leipzig petition, just over 100 scientists and others, including TV weathermen, said they "cannot subscribe to the politically inspired world view that envisages climate catastrophes." Unfortunately, few of the Leipzig signers actually did climate research; they just kibitzed about other people's. Scientific truth is not decided by majority vote, of course (ask Galileo), but the number of researchers whose empirical studies find that the world is warming and that human activity is partly responsible numbered in the thousands even then. The IPCC report issued this year, for instance, was written by more than 800 climate researchers and vetted by 2,500 scientists from 130 nations."
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:34 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Maybe this is just another yet undiscovered method the planet will use to irradicate it's surface of its parasites.
Hydrogen Sulfide May Kill Us, Bring Us Back to Life, Paleontologist Peter Ward Says

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If you think telling kid's there's no Santa is hard
Try telling them there's no North Pole!

CTV.ca | North Pole ice may completely melt away this summer

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Here's the answer to your concern... watch/read the whole thing. Even better google Senator Boxer's speech just before and after his... it is laugh out loud funny! U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works
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Old 07-18-2008, 06:32 PM   #45 (permalink)
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They’re at it again. Over at ICECAP, a site that claims to not be made up of global warming deniers, but turns out to host some of the biggest names in the global warming denial field that get serious $$$ from the oil companies, Joseph D’Aleo (a meteorologist, not climate scientist) put up their latest lie. This graph is the brunt of their argument.
New GW denialists’ deceptive lie on global temperatures Energy Smart

In 1998, Exxon devised a plan to stall action on global warming. The plan was outlined in an internal memo that promised, "Victory will be achieved when uncertainties in climate science become part of the conventional wisdom" for "average citizens" and "the media." (Read the memo [PDF].) http://www.edf.org/documents/3860_Gl...cePlanMemo.pdf

The company would recruit and train new scientists who lack a "history of visibility in the climate debate" and develop materials depicting supporters of action to cut greenhouse gas emissions as "out of touch with reality."

While there is no indication that ExxonMobil paid the climate skeptics directly and the scientists may have their own motivations for participating, the company poured millions of dollars into spreading its message worldwide. Here's where some of that money went.

The following information is from Exxon documents and the organizations' web sites. (Specific sources and links are listed below the table.)

Global Warming Skeptics: A Primer - Global Warming - Environmental Defense Fund

Democracy Now! | Supreme Court Slashes Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Fine to One-Tenth of Original $5 Billion Ruling

Exxon Valdez spill still an issue in Alaska - Los Angeles Times

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While the president and the Republican Party no longer debate about global climate change/warming the position remains in the Senate Environmental Committee that it is not proven/not man caused...

Check out this link Inhofe: Skeptic's Guide to "Global Warming"
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