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Old 05-31-2006, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rising CO2 will give rise to poison ivy, noxious vines
New York, May 31 (PTI): Rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could give birth to thick forests, but with more toxic forms of poisonous ivy and other noxious vines, researchers say.

Higher carbon dioxide levels expected in the next 50 years could breed ivies that grow twice as fast, and, unexpectedly, manufacture a nastier form of poison, researchers in the United States have shown.

"It'll be more dangerous to go in the forest," team leader Jacqueline Mohan of the Marine Biological Laboratory at Woods Hole, Massachusetts was quoted by Nature magazine as saying.

Poison ivy (Toxicodendron radicans), which grows as a shrub or tree-climbing vine, is already the scourge of gardeners and hikers in North America for the excruciating skin rash it can trigger. The plant makes a fatty toxin called urushiol in its leaves.

In the study, Nature says Mohan and her co-workers pumped extra carbon dioxide over three large circular plots of North Carolina pine forest. For six years, the plants inside were exposed to an extra 200 parts per million of the gas over today's atmospheric concentration of about 380 parts per million, roughly what we might expect from pollution by the middle of this century.

Other research, the magazine says, has suggested that vines tend to grow particularly fast in response to higher carbon dioxide levels and that vines are increasing in abundance all over the planet.

Unlike trees, which use extra carbon to grow more wood, vines use it to produce more leaves. The extra leaves help the plant to harvest even more carbon dioxide, the cycle continues and the vines flourish.

Mohan's experiment sought to check whether the plants shoot up in the wild, as they do in greenhouse experiments.

"Yes, dramatically," was the answer, Nature says.

The poisonous ivies grew at double the rate of plants grown under regular carbon dioxide levels, whereas woody species on average tend to grow around 31 per cent faster.

The elevated levels also created a nastier version of urushiol poison, the team showed.

By extracting urushiol from the plant's leaves, Nature says the researchers found that poison ivy grown in high carbon dioxide churned out more than 150 per cent more of one nasty, unsaturated form of urushiol and around 60 per cent less of the mild, saturated form.
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Poison Ivy Problems? Pulling is the way to go; dangerous chemical herbicides are NOT!
http://www.gardensalive.com/article....cd2=1149084247
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New York, May 31 (PTI): Rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could give birth to thick forests, but with more toxic forms of poisonous ivy and other noxious vines, researchers say.

Higher carbon dioxide levels expected in the next 50 years could breed ivies that grow twice as fast, and, unexpectedly, manufacture a nastier form of poison, researchers in the United States have shown.

"It'll be more dangerous to go in the forest," team leader Jacqueline Mohan of the Marine Biological Laboratory at Woods Hole, Massachusetts was quoted by Nature magazine as saying.

Poison ivy (Toxicodendron radicans), which grows as a shrub or tree-climbing vine, is already the scourge of gardeners and hikers in North America for the excruciating skin rash it can trigger. The plant makes a fatty toxin called urushiol in its leaves.

In the study, Nature says Mohan and her co-workers pumped extra carbon dioxide over three large circular plots of North Carolina pine forest. For six years, the plants inside were exposed to an extra 200 parts per million of the gas over today's atmospheric concentration of about 380 parts per million, roughly what we might expect from pollution by the middle of this century.

Other research, the magazine says, has suggested that vines tend to grow particularly fast in response to higher carbon dioxide levels and that vines are increasing in abundance all over the planet.

Unlike trees, which use extra carbon to grow more wood, vines use it to produce more leaves. The extra leaves help the plant to harvest even more carbon dioxide, the cycle continues and the vines flourish.

Mohan's experiment sought to check whether the plants shoot up in the wild, as they do in greenhouse experiments.

"Yes, dramatically," was the answer, Nature says.

The poisonous ivies grew at double the rate of plants grown under regular carbon dioxide levels, whereas woody species on average tend to grow around 31 per cent faster.

The elevated levels also created a nastier version of urushiol poison, the team showed.

By extracting urushiol from the plant's leaves, Nature says the researchers found that poison ivy grown in high carbon dioxide churned out more than 150 per cent more of one nasty, unsaturated form of urushiol and around 60 per cent less of the mild, saturated form.
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I smell... I smell... pseudoscientific bullshit. Deforestation isn't going to be hindred by increased CO2 in the atmosphere. In fact, deforestation is part of the reason we have the problem in the first place.

Now, a nastier version of poison ivy... Perhaps. Feed anything something it feeds on, and it will grow more easily and stronger.
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9 Things You Should Know About Trees

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9 Things You Should Know About Trees

http://www.arborday.org/trees/nineThings.cfm
9. They can be burned for campfires and other conveniences.
8. They drop leaves on your lawn in the fall.
7. Some species make better furniture than others.
6. Some species make better paper than others.
5. If you're going to run into one with your car, make sure you do it while the tree is still little.
4. We should cut down as many as possible to lower the price of lumber.
3. Rubbing tung oil on a walnut dowel can be an erotic experience.
2. Wood chips make great mulch.
1. Big trees block the sunlight and kill your lawn. They should be cut down.
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Corporate America warms to fight against global warming
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/clim...lwarming_x.htm

The big corporations are waking up, when will you?
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9. They can be burned for campfires and other conveniences.
8. They drop leaves on your lawn in the fall.
7. Some species make better furniture than others.
6. Some species make better paper than others.
5. If you're going to run into one with your car, make sure you do it while the tree is still little.
4. We should cut down as many as possible to lower the price of lumber.
3. Rubbing tung oil on a walnut dowel can be an erotic experience.
2. Wood chips make great mulch.
1. Big trees block the sunlight and kill your lawn. They should be cut down.
See, I've never really seen the appeal of lawns... Firstly, I'm allergic to growing grass, and secondly, I'd rather have some nice, shady trees in front of my house. I had one when I was growing up, and I used to climb it all the time. It was great.

Wouldn't cutting down as many trees as possible raise the price of lumber? Once you cut down too many trees, there won't be enough, and the supply will be greatly diminished, so price will go up. In order to repopulate, there will be a smaller genetic stock, and that would leave the new trees prone to disease.

What we need is sensible forest management.
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9. They can be burned for campfires and other conveniences.
8. They drop leaves on your lawn in the fall.
7. Some species make better furniture than others.
6. Some species make better paper than others.
5. If you're going to run into one with your car, make sure you do it while the tree is still little.
4. We should cut down as many as possible to lower the price of lumber.
3. Rubbing tung oil on a walnut dowel can be an erotic experience.
2. Wood chips make great mulch.
1. Big trees block the sunlight and kill your lawn. They should be cut down.

What is the point of slowing progress like you constantly do? Is it in the republican manual to be an asshole towards anyone who wants to protect the environment or something?

It is like big business has all the reps brainwashed.
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What is the point of slowing progress like you constantly do? Is it in the republican manual to be an asshole towards anyone who wants to protect the environment or something?

It is like big business has all the reps brainwashed.

Is it in the Democrat's manual to be a bigot toward anybody you don't agree with?


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...and even though you don't deserve to know this, before we moved off our acreage last year, I had planted several hundred trees - nearly a thousand, in fact. Is that "being green" enough for you, Kermit the Frog?
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