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Environment Debate and defend the issues our world faces on topics such as global warming, environmental pollution, and the many proposals that might help solve these problems.

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Old 08-21-2006, 01:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The climatologists quoted in the article don't believe in global warming.
Belief is not proof of anything except for itself.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Belief is not proof of anything except for itself.
Climatologists use science to arrive at their beliefs, not faith.
Old 08-21-2006, 10:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It is true that we are in a natural warming phase but it is also a fact that our burning of fossil fuels is contributiing to the warming trend. Why even question it? Bio-fuels are one of the answers to ease our contribution to the natural warming. We have not had a iceless polar cap in 800,000 years. Since 1979 the amount of meltage is huge. Most scientists agree there will be no ice at the north pole by 2050. Does anyone actually think, or have any proof, for that matter, that we are not contributing? We are.
Even if we are or are not contributing...the polar ice caps will still melt. If someone can determine the difference between us contributing to the warming trend and the melting of the caps; as well as a world without us burning fossil fules and the melting of the caps..then there might be an argument.

If we all stop burning fossil fuels...doesn't mean those caps are not going to melt. At how much of a slower rate will those caps melt with us not burning fossil fuels?
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Climatologists use science to arrive at their beliefs, not faith.
Well that article entirely lacked science. Without it, you don't have a leg to stand on.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Even if we are or are not contributing...the polar ice caps will still melt.

Even if we are or not? There is no question RHS. Why don't republicans seem to understand that?

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Old 08-22-2006, 12:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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LOL, I know Hev is a little sick of Penn & Teller but here is one about the environment.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...lshit+Hysteria

This time, Hev, don't just call him and idiot, debunk it.
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Even if we are or not? There is no question RHS. Why don't republicans seem to understand that?

Family members are dying. Look at the cancer rates in this country versus less developed countries. Our cars are literally chocking us.
I think you missed his point entirely.

...and as for cancer rates in less developed countries? Good lord, the people there AREN'T LIVING LONG ENOUGH TO GET CANCER. Where is your brain, man?
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I think you missed his point entirely.

...and as for cancer rates in less developed countries? Good lord, the people there AREN'T LIVING LONG ENOUGH TO GET CANCER. Where is your brain, man?
Regions with higher life expectancies have lower rates of cancer than America

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There is a five-fold difference in male cancer incidence rates worldwide and a four-fold difference in female rates. Male rates are highest in the USA, Hungary and New Zealand and are lowest in Niger, Gambia and the Congo. Female cancer incidence rates are highest in the USA, Israel and New Zealand and lowest are in Tunisia, Gambia and Oman (Figure One1).




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Calling the fact that humans are a prime cause of today's global warming a lie, let alone global warming itself a lie, is completely irresponsible, and you're playing with the lively hood of our posterity and the face of this planet.

Get educated:

Global Warming: What You Need to Know

Inconvenient, but indeed true

The Climate Crisis

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Old 08-22-2006, 05:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I think you meant to say "livelihood", not "lively hood". And you want to educate me? Now that is funny. I think we are all beginning to find out who needs to get educated. Better quit while you're ahead.
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