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Environment Debate and defend the issues our world faces on topics such as global warming, environmental pollution, and the many proposals that might help solve these problems.

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Old 02-20-2007, 01:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There's no yellow layer of pollution over the metro area I live in.
The whole damn country is pretty much covered with shit... it is in the dense urban areas you can actually see it with the naked eye. A piss yellow rim on the sky.
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There's no yellow layer of pollution over the metro area I live in.
Then it's not metropolitan
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Global warming is a lie. Here is the proof
Science, Politics and Death - The New American - June 14, 2004
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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that's not 'proof' of anything

it's one man's opinion
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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My Mother had a saying. "There are none so blind as those who will not see"

That means you tristanrobin
"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests".
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Global warming is a lie. Here is the proof
Science, Politics and Death - The New American - June 14, 2004

OMG... whoever wrote this is smoking something REALLY good...

from your link:
"Americans today permit the slaughter of millions of children each year by abortion. We are also complicit in the deaths of two to three million children each year in underdeveloped countries by denying them the protection from malaria that DDT provides. Will we now allow an even greater act of technological genocide?"


however....
http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/pest/effects.html



"DDT concentrations are especially high in human milk. Milk production depends heavily on the use of stored body fat, and this is where DDT tends to stay in our bodies.

So exactly how much DDT can my body tolerate before I should really start worrying? That depends on how much you weigh. At concentration above 236 mg DDT per kg of body weight, you'll die. Concentration of 6-10 mg/kg leads to such symptoms as headache, nausea, vomiting, confusion, and tremors."


soooo.... it's not OK for babies to die due to "abortion" but it's ok if they die from exposure to DDT.

Moreover:
"Initially DDT was spectacularly successful particularly in the control of malaria, as well as against agricultural pests. But by the 1950s, resistance problems had developed, and during the 1960s, a number of serious environmental problems were identified leading to wide-ranging restrictions on its use (see below)(3).
In recent years numerous studies on DDT have shown its environmental persistence and its ability to bioaccumulate, especially in higher animals. Of particular concern is its potential to mimic hormones and thereby disrupt endocrine systems in wildlife and possibly humans. "

DDT

DDT causes more problems than it solves, INCLUDING that the mosquitoes the DDT was meant to fight actually developed resistance to the DDT.
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My Mother had a saying. "There are none so blind as those who will not see"

That means you tristanrobin
well, I guess you told me

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Old 02-22-2007, 09:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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well, I guess you told me


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OMG... whoever wrote this is smoking something REALLY good...

from your link:
"Americans today permit the slaughter of millions of children each year by abortion. We are also complicit in the deaths of two to three million children each year in underdeveloped countries by denying them the protection from malaria that DDT provides. Will we now allow an even greater act of technological genocide?"


however....
http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/pest/effects.html



"DDT concentrations are especially high in human milk. Milk production depends heavily on the use of stored body fat, and this is where DDT tends to stay in our bodies.

So exactly how much DDT can my body tolerate before I should really start worrying? That depends on how much you weigh. At concentration above 236 mg DDT per kg of body weight, you'll die. Concentration of 6-10 mg/kg leads to such symptoms as headache, nausea, vomiting, confusion, and tremors."


soooo.... it's not OK for babies to die due to "abortion" but it's ok if they die from exposure to DDT.

Moreover:
"Initially DDT was spectacularly successful particularly in the control of malaria, as well as against agricultural pests. But by the 1950s, resistance problems had developed, and during the 1960s, a number of serious environmental problems were identified leading to wide-ranging restrictions on its use (see below)(3).
In recent years numerous studies on DDT have shown its environmental persistence and its ability to bioaccumulate, especially in higher animals. Of particular concern is its potential to mimic hormones and thereby disrupt endocrine systems in wildlife and possibly humans. "

DDT

DDT causes more problems than it solves, INCLUDING that the mosquitoes the DDT was meant to fight actually developed resistance to the DDT.
I notice that you did not mention the global warming information on that link.
Was that because you could not refute it?
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Planned Parenthood, 1963
Old 02-22-2007, 09:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The whole damn country is pretty much covered with shit... it is in the dense urban areas you can actually see it with the naked eye. A piss yellow rim on the sky.
Like I said... Not the major metro area where I live.
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