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Old 02-22-2007, 09:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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OMG... whoever wrote this is smoking something REALLY good...

from your link:
"Americans today permit the slaughter of millions of children each year by abortion. We are also complicit in the deaths of two to three million children each year in underdeveloped countries by denying them the protection from malaria that DDT provides. Will we now allow an even greater act of technological genocide?"


however....
http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/pest/effects.html



"DDT concentrations are especially high in human milk. Milk production depends heavily on the use of stored body fat, and this is where DDT tends to stay in our bodies.

So exactly how much DDT can my body tolerate before I should really start worrying? That depends on how much you weigh. At concentration above 236 mg DDT per kg of body weight, you'll die. Concentration of 6-10 mg/kg leads to such symptoms as headache, nausea, vomiting, confusion, and tremors."


soooo.... it's not OK for babies to die due to "abortion" but it's ok if they die from exposure to DDT.

Moreover:
"Initially DDT was spectacularly successful particularly in the control of malaria, as well as against agricultural pests. But by the 1950s, resistance problems had developed, and during the 1960s, a number of serious environmental problems were identified leading to wide-ranging restrictions on its use (see below)(3).
In recent years numerous studies on DDT have shown its environmental persistence and its ability to bioaccumulate, especially in higher animals. Of particular concern is its potential to mimic hormones and thereby disrupt endocrine systems in wildlife and possibly humans. "

DDT

DDT causes more problems than it solves, INCLUDING that the mosquitoes the DDT was meant to fight actually developed resistance to the DDT.

Tell me how long ago they outlawed the use of DDT in the United States?


Or were you thinking it was still used all the time?
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The whole damn country is pretty much covered with shit... it is in the dense urban areas you can actually see it with the naked eye. A piss yellow rim on the sky.
And Stockholm doesn't? Give me a friggin break...
Old 02-22-2007, 09:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Like I said... Not the major metro area where I live.

How's the weather in Rejkjavik this evening??
Old 02-22-2007, 09:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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How's the weather in Rejkjavik this evening??
Just a little chilly.

But that's probably the fault of Global Warming!
Old 02-22-2007, 09:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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How's the weather in Rejkjavik this evening??
Is Rejkjavik covered in shit also?
Old 02-22-2007, 10:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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that's not 'proof' of anything

it's one man's opinion
And a neo-conservative leaning site at that.
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Tell me how long ago they outlawed the use of DDT in the United States?


Or were you thinking it was still used all the time?
gmeyers's article was the one that alluded to DDT being used in underdeveloped countries. quit being supercilious and learn to read.
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jaaaman's article was the one that alluded to DDT being used in underdeveloped countries. quit being supercilious and learn to read.
Muaaa? That was not my article ma'am.

Man, I'm getting it from all sides tonight!
Old 02-22-2007, 10:22 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I notice that you did not mention the global warming information on that link.
Was that because you could not refute it?
the whole article was full of crap. i'd be here all night debunking it.

and besides, how do you refute crap like this?

"For those of us who also understand our accountability to our Creator, the myth of human-caused global warming raises a much larger issue. "

seriously, what's that supposed to mean? is it that popular religious talking point about how we're supposed to use up the earth because God gave it to us? God gave us STEWARDSHIP of the Earth. We're not supposed to just use it up.


and all that stuff about United Nations and genocide? what the hell? (that i did address in my last post)


seriously... anyone who denies global warming is happening is deluding themselves. it's very real. it's happening right now. and most climate scientists are in agreement. Global Warming: Early Warning Signs
Old 02-22-2007, 10:28 PM   #30 (permalink)
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the whole article was full of crap. i'd be here all night debunking it.

and besides, how do you refute crap like this?

"For those of us who also understand our accountability to our Creator, the myth of human-caused global warming raises a much larger issue. "

seriously, what's that supposed to mean? is it that popular religious talking point about how we're supposed to use up the earth because God gave it to us? God gave us STEWARDSHIP of the Earth. We're not supposed to just use it up.


and all that stuff about United Nations and genocide? what the hell? (that i did address in my last post)


seriously... anyone who denies global warming is happening is deluding themselves. it's very real. it's happening right now. and most climate scientists are in agreement. Global Warming: Early Warning Signs
How long has DDT been outlawed in the United States?


Or don't you know that either?
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