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Environment Debate and defend the issues our world faces on topics such as global warming, environmental pollution, and the many proposals that might help solve these problems.

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Old 03-23-2007, 02:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Having a big house is not being a hypocrite. Unless you want to put caps on what size a house a person can own....hmmm
- I live in a huge old brick house that has a total of almost 4,000 square feet (though not all of it is finished).
- I live in a MUCH COLDER CLIMATE than Nashville, TN.

We spend exactly $50 per month for Natural Gas, and $75 per month for electricity.

How do we get by so cheap?
1. Everything is super-insulated.
2. Extremely high-efficiency furnace.
3. Programmable thermostat.
4. Energy-mindedness.


Why is it that even though I do NOT claim to be "Mister Economy" who is out to save the planet, I am doing what Al Gore simply REFUSES TO DO?


And how is it that you simply cannot understand this - other than that Liberals are simply closed-minded people?
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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"Why do you refuse to address the FACT that Gore burns up 20 times more electricity than the NORMAL household?"

Gore does not lead a "normal" life.
Exactly.
I think one would have to compare his energy usage to others who have twenty room mansions in the area he lives. The idea of comparing the energy usage with 'normal' households is absurd. He doesn't HAVE a 'normal' household.
Just as his job takes him all over the country...and world. Of course he uses more fuel doing HIS job than some guy who has a twenty minute commute five days a week.

It's comparing apples and plutonium.
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I think one would have to compare his energy usage to others who have twenty room mansions in the area he lives. The idea of comparing the energy usage with 'normal' households is absurd. He doesn't HAVE a 'normal' household.
Just as his job takes him all over the country...and world. Of course he uses more fuel doing HIS job than some guy who has a twenty minute commute five days a week.

It's comparing apples and plutonium.
Well Tristan, for some people ignorance is bliss.

And a doubt that Jefferson, and others like him, will even acknowledge the obvious facts that you and Winston point out.

Now, which room in my 20 room, 20,000 square foot mansion...err..."normal home" should I have my dinner in tonight?
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Well Tristan, for some people ignorance is bliss.

And a doubt that Jefferson, and others like him, will even acknowledge the obvious facts that you and Winston point out.

Now, which room in my 20 room, 20,000 square foot mansion...err..."normal home" should I have my dinner in tonight?

Go for the Safari room
Old 03-23-2007, 05:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Well Tristan, for some people ignorance is bliss.

And a doubt that Jefferson, and others like him, will even acknowledge the obvious facts that you and Winston point out.

Now, which room in my 20 room, 20,000 square foot mansion...err..."normal home" should I have my dinner in tonight?
What kind of utter stupidity is that?

Gore does NOT NEED to live in a huge mansion!
Gore does NOT NEED to use 20 times the electricity and 10 times the natural gas of the average American.
Gore does NOT NEED to fly around the world in charter jets!
Gore does NOT NEED to continue to RAPE THE ENVIRONMENT the way he is!

The man is a complete fraud, liar and hypocrite.


But you, obviously, need to continue to defend his blatant hypocrisy. Congratulations - you're the winner of this year's Darwin Award.
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What kind of utter stupidity is that?

Gore does NOT NEED to live in a huge mansion!
Gore does NOT NEED to use 20 times the electricity and 10 times the natural gas of the average American.
Gore does NOT NEED to fly around the world in charter jets!
Gore does NOT NEED to continue to RAPE THE ENVIRONMENT the way he is!

The man is a complete fraud, liar and hypocrite.


But you, obviously, need to continue to defend his blatant hypocrisy. Congratulations - you're the winner of this year's Darwin Award.
So what are you going to do to help protect the enviroment? Scream and yell about all people that live in mansions?
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What kind of utter stupidity is that?

Gore does NOT NEED to live in a huge mansion!
Gore does NOT NEED to use 20 times the electricity and 10 times the natural gas of the average American.
Gore does NOT NEED to fly around the world in charter jets!
Gore does NOT NEED to continue to RAPE THE ENVIRONMENT the way he is!

The man is a complete fraud, liar and hypocrite.


But you, obviously, need to continue to defend his blatant hypocrisy. Congratulations - you're the winner of this year's Darwin Award.
Jeff good to see you out of the lockup too!!

I have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think global warming is about reducing everyone to the same level

Otherwise we'd all end up in 500 sq ft apartments with solar power!

It's about reducing carbon emissions in whatever walk of life you are able to achieve

The fair comparison would be whether Gore does better than other people with similar 20 room mansions!!
Old 03-23-2007, 05:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
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So what are you going to do to help protect the enviroment? Scream and yell about all people that live in mansions?
I've already said what I am - and have been doing - to help the environment. READ, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

I LIVE green - though I'm not a liberal hippie tree-hugger.
Al Gore does NOT LIVE green - even though he's the self-appointed Savior of the Environment.


What is it that continues to escape your fixated, narrow-minded vision about this?
Old 03-23-2007, 05:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Jeff good to see you out of the lockup too!!

I have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think global warming is about reducing everyone to the same level

Otherwise we'd all end up in 500 sq ft apartments with solar power!

It's about reducing carbon emissions in whatever walk of life you are able to achieve

The fair comparison would be whether Gore does better than other people with similar 20 room mansions!!
Should a high-paid fitness adviser be physically-fit? Yes.
Should a professional pilot actually be able to fly planes? Yes.
Should a self-acclaimed Savior of the Environment lead a GREEN life? Again, YES!

I don't care what kind of house Gore lives in. If he's going to preach environmentalism, he danged well better be living it. And currently he is NOT living it!


...and by the way, I would assume you too have been locked out of the Gay Marriage chat-room, even though the admin/mods continue to let all the gay trolls infest every other forum on this site!
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Gore does NOT NEED to live in a huge mansion!
Gore does NOT NEED to use 20 times the electricity and 10 times the natural gas of the average American.
Gore does NOT NEED to fly around the world in charter jets!
Gore does NOT NEED to continue to RAPE THE ENVIRONMENT the way he is!

The man is a complete fraud, liar and hypocrite.
Well, you can live in a tent in the woods and never leave it either too, you know...and have an exceptionally small carbon footprint as a result.

But I'm betting that scenario isn't what you say is what you need to live.
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