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Here we are, talking about this, because of what Gore has done to bring attention to this issue. Seems like it is working to me. Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville Last edited by tyreay; 03-24-2007 at 11:02 AM. Reason: added sentence | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Would it be the vast majority of scientists who understand our planet's climate better than you do? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Even if there were NO HUMAN BEINGS ON EARTH we'd still be in a warming cycle. As for Gore flying commercial... Why are you making excuses for him? All he would need is two security guards. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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And despite what mantra you chant, there is NO consensus on Global Warming - neither its reality nor its supposed causes. It's little more than all the political rage right now. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Why are you so bitter about Al Gore, Jeff? I am giving legitimate reasons why it would be impossible for him to fly commercially and you claim I am making excuses. I think the real problem doesn't lie with people defending him or making excuses for him, it lies in you apparent hatred of the person. As for the Human Element being minor, not true. Much evidence exists to show the contrary. Not Al Gore's presentation either. Please check out this link on the ice core samples taken from Antarctica: NOVA Online | Warnings from the Ice | Stories in the Ice Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville Last edited by tyreay; 03-24-2007 at 11:48 AM. Reason: spelling | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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So, if two of these things aren't changing in any significant rate of change right now (Earth's orbital position from the sun and the sun's radiation output), then what do you suppose is changing Earth's global surface temperature at the rate that it is changing? (Earth's surface composition *does* play a supporting role in how it handles radiation.) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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(I believe it was you who pointed this out earlier on this website.) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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And I hate the HYPOCRISY of it all. Is there something about that you all cannot understand? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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The funny thing is, 30 years ago all the environmental hype folks were screaming about Global COOLING! Funny how rapidly things can change when we need a new craze. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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I described three primary factors that appear to drive Earth's average surface temperature. And two of those factors don't appear to be changing in a rate right now that could account for this current increase in average global surface temperature. So then, what is the only factor left that might be causing Earth's current warming? (Thirty years ago-or so-scientists were describing the current interglacial period that Earth is in and they were projecting a possible future for Earth...based on the data that they were looking at. But, clearly, the data has changed...thus changing future predictions. Such is the changeable nature of science...unlike theology, in general.) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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