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Environment Debate and defend the issues our world faces on topics such as global warming, environmental pollution, and the many proposals that might help solve these problems.

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Old 03-23-2007, 08:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Was the 65,000 gallons of jet fuel he burned up GREEN fuel?
Is the 10x the normal amount of natural gas used per household GREEN natural gas?
No, neither were green. The only thing that could truly be considered green is his electricity.

He buys carbon offsets to account for his natural gas usage, and he also used them to account for his jet fuel usage. This means that his actions DID indeed cause carbon emissions, but this carbon offset program theoretically reduces the carbon in our atmosphere by that same amount.
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No, neither were green. The only thing that could truly be considered green is his electricity.

He buys carbon offsets to account for his natural gas usage, and he also used them to account for his jet fuel usage. This means that his actions DID indeed cause carbon emissions, but this carbon offset program theoretically reduces the carbon in our atmosphere by that same amount.
I am dumbfounded that you actually believe that environmental BS propaganda.

Al Gore is doing EXACTLY what he says everyone ELSE should NOT do. He uses exorbitant amounts of electricity, natural gas, jet fuel, vehicle gas, and other non-renewable energy resources. End of story.
Old 03-23-2007, 11:07 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am dumbfounded that you actually believe that environmental BS propaganda.

Al Gore is doing EXACTLY what he says everyone ELSE should NOT do. He uses exorbitant amounts of electricity, natural gas, jet fuel, vehicle gas, and other non-renewable energy resources. End of story.
Has the media acknowledged this?? I don't watch anything on t.v. because we don't have Cable in the dorm room. Why the hell is this guy allowed to promote his beliefs while his actions counter his beliefs??
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Has the media acknowledged this?? I don't watch anything on t.v. because we don't have Cable in the dorm room. Why the hell is this guy allowed to promote his beliefs while his actions counter his beliefs??
While I'll agree that Al Gore should do more with his home (and possibly traveling) to save energy and, as a result, have a lower carbon footprint, he *does* invest in companies that develop "green" technologies via "Carbon Offset" programs by paying significantly more money per energy used on his home's energy bill than other families.

(Corporations and energy-producing companies use this same program all the time.)

But, none of this should change the fact that he has a right to speak his mind via free speech. ("allowed"???)
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But, none of this should change the fact that he has a right to speak his mind via free speech. ("allowed"???)
Yeah... he is allowed to make a total hypocrital ass out of himself...
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But, none of this should change the fact that he has a right to speak his mind via free speech. ("allowed"???)
Everyone has the right to free speech...But it is ineffective if you are doing the opposite of what you are saying
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Al Gore is doing EXACTLY what he says everyone ELSE should NOT do. He uses exorbitant amounts of electricity, natural gas, jet fuel, vehicle gas, and other non-renewable energy resources.
That isn't at all what Gore tells people not to do. Gore tells people to reduce their carbon footprint to zero. He certainly doesn't say anything like, "use renewable energy", at least not as far as I'm aware.

Am I wrong? Did Gore actually say the things you claim? Obviously I can't know everything he says, but if he did say these, at least provide some evidence that he said it.

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End of story.
It's the end of the story only because you've decided that's where it ends: because it's convenient for your story to end there. You don't want to mention that Gore purchases Green Power or Carbon Offsets. You don't want to mention that he's installing solar panels. But if you fail to mention these things, then you're not telling the complete story, and that's dishonest.

If you're going to tell people about Gore, tell them the complete story. Don't use half-truths, trickery and deception.

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Has the media acknowledged this?? I don't watch anything on t.v. because we don't have Cable in the dorm room. Why the hell is this guy allowed to promote his beliefs while his actions counter his beliefs??
Few media sources have acknowledged this, probably because of the explanations I've been providing. Jefferson is only telling half of the story; he's leaving out important details.
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
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That isn't at all what Gore tells people not to do. Gore tells people to reduce their carbon footprint to zero. He certainly doesn't say anything like, "use renewable energy", at least not as far as I'm aware.

Am I wrong? Did Gore actually say the things you claim? Obviously I can't know everything he says, but if he did say these, at least provide some evidence that he said it.

It's the end of the story only because you've decided that's where it ends: because it's convenient for your story to end there. You don't want to mention that Gore purchases Green Power or Carbon Offsets. You don't want to mention that he's installing solar panels. But if you fail to mention these things, then you're not telling the complete story, and that's dishonest.

If you're going to tell people about Gore, tell them the complete story. Don't use half-truths, trickery and deception.

Few media sources have acknowledged this, probably because of the explanations I've been providing. Jefferson is only telling half of the story; he's leaving out important details.
Green Power: Tennessee Valley Authority purchases SOME of the electricity from renewable energy sources such as wind generated turbines, solar collectors and methane gas. But the bottom line is that all the electricity gets fed into the same grid, and all residential electricity comes from the same power grid. Paying extra for his electricity does NOT excuse Al Gore from using 20 times as much as the average household!

Carbon Offsets: Little more than the Catholic Church selling indulgences, according to English environmentalist George Monbiot. So Gore is paying a little extra money for somebody (who knows who that "somebody" is) to plant some trees (who knows if the trees ever get planted). But again, throwing a little money at somebody to plant some trees does NOT excuse the FACT that Al Gore uses exorbitant amounts of natural gas at his Nashville mansion!

65,000 gallons of jet fuel wasted: Regardless of the leftist propaganda that you're gullible enough to believe, there is NO EXCUSE for Al Gore burning up over 65,000 gallons of jet fuel while flying all over the country promoting his mockumentary. Why didn't he fly commercial? Why didn't he stay home and let advertisers do the job? How much pollution was blown into the atmosphere by this act of hypocrisy? How much ozone did Al Gore destroy while flying all over the country?


You want to start talking about THE WHOLE STORY? Yes, please, let's do that! But I'll warn you - it does NOT get better for Al The Hypocrite Gore! All these "left out" details you allude to do NOT excuse Gore. They further implicate they hypocrite!
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If I was 5'10" and weighed 425 lbs, would you pay me for personal advice on Health & Fitness?

If "YES", why?
If "NO", why not?
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If I was 5'10" and weighed 425 lbs, would you pay me for personal advice on Health & Fitness?

If "YES", why?
If "NO", why not?
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