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Freedom of Speech Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; How far do you feel freedom of speech should go?

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Old 07-11-2007, 07:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Do you think non theists would censor words in movies? I don't.

Breasts, vaginas, dicks and swears are of the devil or some such nonsense.
I am agnostic. And I don't believe such talk is healthy for children. So yes, I think non thiests would censor words on Network television.
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I just don't watch censored movies on television. It happens a lot less in Canada, I think. A Vancouver station, CityTV, never used to censor its movies. I can't really go back to bad dubbing.
Old 07-12-2007, 07:07 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The issue is getting the movie on Network televison. Honestly, do you think we need a movie where practically every other word is "fuck" playing during family primetime?

If you're going to go there, then let's go ahead and play the full versions of songs like "Straight Outta Compton" by NWA and "Payback's a Bitch" by Slayer on commercial radio.

Hell, then why shouldn't "fuck" be allowed in prime time commercials.. or news broadcasts?

"Wow, this is a fucking great fucking pizza!!!"

"Buy this fucking car. It fucking hauls ass."

"Holy shit, Jane, it looks like the Democrats are kicking the fuck out of the Republicans, according to early exit polls."

"Boy, that hurricane sure turned New Orleans into a cluster fuck, didn't it, Tom?"
"Fuck yes, Steve, I'm reporting live from downtown, and the water is up to my fucking balls."

My answer is this... it was a STUPID idea to think this movie ever belonged on network television to begin with. It's a great fucking movie, but just not for that particular forum.

Change the channel use the v-chip.
Old 07-12-2007, 08:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I think your television comes equipped with a channel button for a reason.... Hell, for that matter, so does your remote...

We are a nation of choices... just look at your cereal aisle if you doubt me...

Turn the channel, turn off the TV... but for fuck's sake, take some personal responsibility!!
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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We are a nation of choices...
Hah. Yeah...would you like Coke or Pepsi?
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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... or Shasta... or Fanta... or Sam's Choice.... or RC... or XYZ store brand...
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Change the channel use the v-chip.
Again, the issue is whether this particular movie should be on NETWORK television.

If you're talking about HBO or similar networks, my response is the same as yours. Or, I would add to it, "don't let your kids watch HBO at 1 a.m."

But, we're not talking about that. We're talking about what is appropriate for NETWORK television.

This movie is simply not a good match for the networks for two reasons.
1: It simply has too fucking many "f-bombs" and other crude humor in it.
2: If you try to take that stuff out, you essentially ruin the movie, just as you would totally ruin the profound impact of "Saving Private Ryan" if you removed all the horribly graphic, extended sequences of war violence from that film.

There is a time and a place for everything. Prime-time, network television is not the time or place for this particular film.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well, obviously there would be stations that are meant for "adult" viewers. And adult only content would be moved to late evenings.

I think censorship is unamerican however. And I think kids can handle language and nudity just fine under adult supervision (which they should be receiving anyway).
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
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... or Shasta... or Fanta... or Sam's Choice.... or RC... or XYZ store brand...
That is true. But putting a movie such as "The Big Lebowski" on prime time commercial network television in all its uncensored glory would be like pouring sugar into diet soda, when the people making that choice clearly expected their soda to be sugar-free.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Typically they don't just slam the show in your face.... it comes with a language and/or content warning. I hate when they'd replace my favorite shows with Billy Graham crusades, but I didn't whine about it, I changed the channel. The content of his program was offensive to ME, but rather than launch a protest or scream at the television, I utilized the buttons that I paid for when I bought the damned thing....
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