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Columbia University - Selective Free Speech

Freedom of Speech Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; How far do you feel freedom of speech should go?

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Old 09-24-2007, 12:53 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I think that the problem lies with the mixed messages. a university allowing Ahmadinejad to speak is bad yet nobody complains when the president of the United States hugs and kisses saudi terror sponsors (the royals) in public. and remains loyal business partners with them.
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so your solution is to become just like Iran and not allow free speech? how does that teach anything?
I'm all for freedom of speech as being a fundamental right for all US citizens.

But, if that right is extended to foreigners visiting the US, then why shouldn't that same right be extended to Americans visiting Iran?

So, if you are talking about the "freedom of speech," why limit such a liberty to just Americans and foreigners who are inside the US?
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The Iranians do have freedome of speech in Iran - only to a point when they protest against the USA. The protestors are probably encouraged or told to by the goverment.
Have you ever been to Iran?
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I'm all for freedom of speech as being a fundamental right for all US citizens.

But, if that right is extended to foreigners visiting the US, then why shouldn't that same right be extended to Americans visiting Iran?

So, if you are talking about the &quot;freedom of speech,&quot; why limit such a liberty to just Americans and foreigners who are inside the US?
Um, because we do not have power in other countries, but we have power in our own. let's take it to the next logical step. iranians and others are often killed in their countries. so let's kill them when they come here too.
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Have you ever been to Iran?
No. Certainly it is a country I would like to visit, though.
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No. Certainly it is a country I would like to visit, though.
If you have not been there how do you know what they have?
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If you have not been there how do you know what they have?
You don't think I don't follow the news? You don't think that a lot of us saw the protests in 1979 when the Iranians took over the US Embassy, and they also protested against the USA afterwards, even after the 444 days?
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Um, because we do not have power in other countries, but we have power in our own.
But, Ahmadinejad isn't a US citizen.

Thus, he isn't offered the US Constitutionally protected freedom of speech...even when he is in the US.

So, why should he be treated any differently regarding freedom of speech than Americans are treated when they visit Iran?
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Ahmadinejad "speech" seems quite "canned," if you ask me.

I seriously doubt that there will be any real debate today at Columbia University.
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You don't think I don't follow the news? You don't think that a lot of us saw the protests in 1979 when the Iranians took over the US Embassy, and they also protested against the USA afterwards, even after the 444 days?
Yes I can agree many there do hate Americans. My husband was in the air force and on a base lock downed as Iranians trashed the base. The US soldiers were not allowed to stop them as they rioted on our soil in our air base shouting death to all Americans.

One cannot really say though they have anything close to free speech. Repeating rhetoric of hatred concerning foriegn policies of a government is not exactly free speech.
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