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"Hate Crimes" Legislation: A License To Kill The First Amendment

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Old 10-11-2007, 12:44 PM   #91 (permalink)
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All crime is driven to a degree by mental illness.
Oh, I seriously don't buy that.

Some kid who steals a car to go joy riding is mentally ill?

If that is the case, then the term 'mental illness' is WAY overused in today's society.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:06 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Hate crimes legislation applies to straight people too.

And current legislation applies to homosexuals too.

Got anything else?
Old 10-11-2007, 01:09 PM   #93 (permalink)
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At times I wonder if he can't see through his own mindless repetition, and suffers from the attention span of a gnat...
... or if he's just trying to be annoying.
But then I realize it doesn't really matter, and I move on to things that actually matter.

At this stage, I think everybody has realized what category he is in. I look for any semblance that anybody thinks his reasoning has merit, but I don't see any.

Over and over again, if somebody's opinion even happens to overlap with gar's, a phrase like "I can't believe I am agreeing with gary, but ..." can be seen.

There is extreme irony that he stalks people who ignore him, and then claims a victory when they ignore him.
Probably because that's the only delusional semblance of a victory he can muster in his pathetic existence...
Your usual arrogant bloviation which avoids answering my point.

So let me repeat it for you here:

How ironic that you always dismiss this argument when we point out that We The People of Massachusetts should decide whether they want homosexual marriage in that state!

In that case you seemed determined to let the Judges' decision take precedence over the will of the people.

Just as you pursue your bigoted objective of making homosexuals more equal than others when they are the victims of a crime.

Looks like your rampant hypocrisy has been exposed yet again. __________________
Old 10-11-2007, 01:13 PM   #94 (permalink)
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You are missing the point of bias crime legislature.

Hate crimes (also known as bias motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her membership in a certain social group, usually defined by race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.[1] Hate crimes differ from conventional crime because they are not directed simply at an individual, but are meant to cause fear and intimidation in an entire group or class of people.
So which crimes do NOT cause fear and intimidation to others?

Did the VA Tech killer cause fear and intimidation to students everywhere?

If a criminal assaults, robs or murders someone selected at random, should he be exempt from prosecution for a hate crime and be given a lesser sentence?

The whole problem with hate crime legislation is not only who is Included but who is EXcluded
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"The whole problem with hate crime legislation is not only who is Included but who is EXcluded."


Ex-freaking-actly!
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Oh, I seriously don't buy that.

Some kid who steals a car to go joy riding is mentally ill?

If that is the case, then the term 'mental illness' is WAY overused in today's society.

Okay, saying "ALL" in my previous argument was a boner.

I would say much crime and most violent crime has roots in some sort of mental illness.
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Oh, I seriously don't buy that.

Some kid who steals a car to go joy riding is mentally ill?

If that is the case, then the term 'mental illness' is WAY overused in today's society.
I don't think all crime is driven by mental illness either. Maybe all hate crime is though.
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Okay, saying "ALL" in my previous argument was a boner.

I would say much crime and most violent crime has roots in some sort of mental illness.
Really. Most people who shoplift are probably not mentally ill (for example).
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Okay, saying "ALL" in my previous argument was a boner.

I would say much crime and most violent crime has roots in some sort of mental illness.
I think you are confusing mental illness with psychological problems.

Check this link out:

NAMI | About Mental Illness

Now, my sister has a mental illness, bi-polar disorder. This illness is just like any other illness, and is corrected with medication. Psychological problems are different and are handled by seeing a therapist.
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"The whole problem with hate crime legislation is not only who is Included but who is EXcluded."


Ex-freaking-actly!
Well, tell you what?

When over 40, white men that live in rural areas are targeted especially because of what they are, then you have an argument.
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