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Freedom of Speech Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; How far do you feel freedom of speech should go?

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Old 10-27-2007, 09:58 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Thank you! I was trying to find a way to say that very thing. I do not want my taxes funding ANY religion in ANY way. Making that the case in no way infringes on the rights of people to worship as they choose. I am far from atheistic, but I'm not a Christian or a Jew, so why should I be paying rent on a public building housing a monument to the 10 Comandments? That is a huge affront to my freedom of religion and so is being expected listen to a Christian prayer at a graduation from a public school. I don't see Buddhas and yin & yan plastered all over courthouses and in schools (nor would I want to).
I also agree, Tristan. I believe that also,Church and State should not ever be combined.
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I wonder who among you fantaspeakers here would mind if the gay members were to share their fantasies as blatantly, tastelessly and pure-dy tacky as y'all have done!

I wouldn't read them. It would be disgusting. But then again, when they have "gay oriented" programming on TV, I change the channel. I Will @ Grace had had more actual "gay" relationships on, I doubt it would have lasted as long. No one wants to see that crap.
Why not save the public threads for real discussion and share your "boys will be boys" noise in private messages?
Why not kiss my posterior? Just saying.
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Why not kiss my posterior? Just saying.
Is that "freedom of speech"?
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I also agree, Tristan. I believe that also,Church and State should not ever be combined.
So does this mean we need to tear down the federal and state buildings that have religious symbols on them to appease the anit christ out there in America today? Also are you and will you deny another the right to use their book of faith to study from while they are learning to read?
Old 10-28-2007, 12:25 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Dude, give me a break... Lewinsky would have been "okay" as the mistress for an average Joe when she and Clinton shared a cigar... so to speak. But the leader of the Free World?

Man, if I were President and I were going to step out on the First Lady, I wouldn't settle for "okay" -- I'd have a threesome on the desk in the Oval Office with Jennifer Connley and Hallie Berry while Gwen Steffani took pictures and Bjork provided the music.
Sheeeeeeeet! Monica was OK in her day. I would have shagged the shit. What about that bitch who accused Clinton of sexual misconduct before he became president? I don't remember her name, but that bitch was butt ugly!

Fuck Halle Berry, I would choose Paris Hilton and Bjork - and - Bjork wouldn't even have to provide music - just some ass.
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I wonder who among you fantaspeakers here would mind if the gay members were to share their fantasies as blatantly, tastelessly and pure-dy tacky as y'all have done!

Why not save the public threads for real discussion and share your "boys will be boys" noise in private messages?

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You have a point there. We have definitely crossed the line into crude "guy talk." I guess I have no right to complain if the gay members of the board got into a similar discussion

You have to admit tough, that is is interesting to read.
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Why not kiss my posterior? Just saying.
You are supposed to say, "kiss my black ass."
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You have a point there. We have definitely crossed the line into crude "guy talk." I guess I have no right to complain if the gay members of the board got into a similar discussion

You have to admit tough, that is is interesting to read.
Truthfully; what gays post here does not bother me. One: it's their right to do so; and Two: as I've said in other posts- I don't feel that it is forced upon me- I have the right to ignore posts by such people if I did have a problem with the content. Yes, I admit the crude sex talk has gotten out of hand, and I took part in making a comment in this. I apologize if I have offended anyone; I will keep such crudity and bad manners to myself.
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So does this mean we need to tear down the federal and state buildings that have religious symbols on them to appease the anit christ out there in America today? Also are you and will you deny another the right to use their book of faith to study from while they are learning to read?
The "anti christ?" Lololol--my aren't we fearful! Use the Bible all you want to learn to read. In public school "Sally Dick and Jane" works just fine.
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So does this mean we need to tear down the federal and state buildings that have religious symbols on them to appease the anit christ out there in America today? Also are you and will you deny another the right to use their book of faith to study from while they are learning to read?
No, Rod; I don't believe I ever said we should or must tear down any buildings (federal or state) with religious symbols on them. Nut, to clariry myself; I think we must not allow Church (religion) to be mixed with State (government). Doing so defines theocracy. Now, part of freedom of religion is acceptance of another's religion, even though it may differ from our own. I don't believe that books of religion ( Bible, Qu'ran, Torah, or anything else) should be put into the public schools outside of that religion's own sponsored schools. In putting those books into the general public school system, one religion can be said to be forcing its own beliefs upon somebody who may not be of that religion. And that is where our circular arguments and beliefs on this subject are convoluted.
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