| Freedom of Speech Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; How far do you feel freedom of speech should go? | 
12-12-2007, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidHenry  Because it's poor form to just constantly ask questions, constantly criticize, but never reveal any of your own exact views on these matters. |
All you two do is state opinion without any substantiation.
If you explain why you hold those opinions then you form a platform for a debate.
Try to introduce the word "because" into some of your rants.
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Originally Posted by DavidHenry I asked Gary the same question in another thread JJ, let's see if answers either of us....  |
He can't or else it will expose him.  | |
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12-12-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by garysher All you two do is state opinion without any substantiation.
If you explain why you hold those opinions then you form a platform for a debate.
. | We have been explaining them, ie, you don't have the right to violate basic moral laws, now unless you don't support these basic moral laws, why would you stick up for the violaters? | |
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Originally Posted by DavidHenry We have been explaining them, ie, you don't have the right to violate basic moral laws, now unless you don't support these basic moral laws, why would you stick up for the violaters? |
(Observe how we use the word "because")
Because there is a moral way to deal with people who violate moral laws.
And because slaughtering unarmed fleeing burglars in cold blood is a violation of a basic moral law
So why do YOU oppose basic moral laws?
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12-12-2007, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by garysher
Because there is a moral way to deal with people who violate moral laws.
| What is it, and how effective is it?
Also, why write off the deterent value of legally allowing people to defend their property.
Existing laws, courts and police do not stop crime,.... crime in many cases is committed one on one, therefore the most effective crime prevention is the individual victim.
You're all about criminals rights and privileges....IMO, once you break and enter, you lose most rights, you're literally at the mercy of the mentality, capacity and weaponary of the occupant.
Stay out of the house, and no-one is hurt....problem solved. | |
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Originally Posted by DavidHenry What is it, and how effective is it?
Also, why write off the deterent value of legally allowing people to defend their property.
Existing laws, courts and police do not stop crime,.... crime in many cases is committed one on one, therefore the most effective crime prevention is the individual victim.
You're all about criminals rights and privileges....IMO, once you break and enter, you lose most rights, you're literally at the mercy of the mentality, capacity and weaponary of the occupant.
Stay out of the house, and no-one is hurt....problem solved. | Your naivety is almost as stunning as your incoherency!
Yet again - Do you support the rule of law or vigilante "justice"?
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Originally Posted by garysher rule of law | Who's rule of law? Your subjective criteria or an objective axiom. Remember, it was the "rule of law" to have open slavery, now it is only by rule of law. | |
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Originally Posted by garysher Yet again - Do you support the rule of law or vigilante "justice"? | If defending one's property and life is considered as vigilante, then yes.
Now back to you, are you a lawyer?
Also, how do you establish the difference between right and wrong?
You keep evading these questions, why? | |
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12-12-2007, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenifer Johnson Who's rule of law? Your subjective criteria or an objective axiom. Remember, it was the "rule of law" to have open slavery, now it is only by rule of law. | Gary refuses to answer how he establishes between right and wrong{but I've asked him again}, so I think he's just gonna bite at our ankles. | |
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Originally Posted by DavidHenry You're all about criminals rights and privileges..... | That is the basic objective of Judaism, creating laws (legal system) to hide their criminality. | |
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