Defending the Truth

Well there you go then.
If people want to speak their minds, they can. Just don't expect them to remain students of the college if they do.
They get kicked out, and by your standards, it's not censorship.

Sound fair?


What are you talking about.
Be specific, preferrably with an example.


Dude. If I stood up in public school and started reading the Declaration of Independence in the middle of class I would get in trouble.
There is a time and a place for everything in public school.
And "Christians" are free to stand up and give religious speeches in the appropriate forums.


As long as it's not in conjunction with the school, you're more than welcome.
If the viewers got together and prayed in the stands, that would be their deal.

Christians are not free to stand up and give religious speeches in public schools? Christians have been denied praying before football games in this country. You never heard of this?

A high school football coach was surprised to learn leading team prayers was illegal. He decided to resign in protest.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." This clause in the Bill of Rights was proposed by the first Congress of the United States which opened its legislative day with prayer. On the day after the First Amendment was passed by the House, it "passed, by a better than two-to-one majority, a resolution calling for a day of national prayer and thanksgiving." Also, at the time the First Amendment was ratified, three states had officially established religions and several others had officially sanctioned certain religious beliefs.

It is important to note that the "Establishment Clause" and "Free Exercise Clause" explicitly apply to the federal government although they have been liberally extended by the Supreme Court to include all levels of government. The logic by which they have been extended is voluminous and sometimes difficult to work through but it involves interpreting the grammar and language of the clauses in historical context. Not to be simplistic (as the Supreme Court almost never is) but when a word or phrase is as obvious as "Congress" is, I'm at a loss to understand why it should be "interpreted" to mean all forms and levels of government within the territorial boundaries of the country and any agency thereof"........

http://tinyurl.com/mmkds

Are you paying attention at all?
NOBODY is free to stand up and give a speech in the middle of a public school.
It's disruptive.


PAY ATTENTION.
Christians have been denied the capability to USE THE SCHOOL to have a prayer before the football game.
And that means any part of the GOVERNMENT owned school. Whether it be with the team in the locker room. or other examples.
The FANS in the STADIUM can pray if they want.

But what Christians REALLY want is the GOVERNMENT ENDORSEMENT, and that's why they don't pray in the stands as they're allowed, but rather they cry and whine about wanting to have the SCHOOL lead it...

When he's getting paid to be the coach, and he decides to VIOLATE school and governmental policy on prayer, his "protest" is noted but ignored...

He either does the job as he's told and as the rules prescribe, or he doesn't.
If he's incapable of doing his job, he should resign or get fired.

Wrong. Christians don't want government endorsement. They want freedom. You and your friends are denying that. Anytime you get the government involved in anything, it always restricts freedom.

Do you believe the coach has the right to lead the team in prayer in the locker room before the game?

They want freedom to impose their morals on other people?

We've been over this before alias.
Christians CAN pray in school. Any Christian can bow his head during lunch or before a game and pray his own prayer. THAT is their FREEDOM.

They CANNOT have the governmentally paid teacher or coach LEAD THEM in that prayer.

NOBODY is denying you "freedom".


I kind of already answered this question, but I'll do now explicitly.
No. He doesn't have that "right".
He has the "right" to bow his own head and pray. He doesn't have the right to LEAD OTHERS in prayer.


And I can't help but notice you have effectively ignored ALL the points I made earlier.
It's amazing how self-centered your arguing style is. You focus ONLY on what you want to focus on, and insist others answer your questions...
And when others DO answer your questions, you refuse to answer theirs, and you refuse to address their arguments.


Do you want to discuss the REPUBLICAN PARTY censoring a REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE??? The example I brought up earlier.

No, that's what NARAL & NAMBLA want.

Actually you have it backwards...The ones holding the great big tall white signs are the protest warriors. The ones holding them up high and keeping quiet are the protest warriors. The ones attacking, swearing, and yelling "bullshit" are the liberals.

Check out the 14th Amendment.