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| Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman. |
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Enjoy your pyrrhic victory while you can. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Are you honest enough to address the fact that there are OTHER petitioning methods available to the Massachusetts citizens for enacting constitutional changes, but that THESE petitioning methods could not be used for the bigots in Massachusetts because they couldn't gather enough signatures? Quote:
"drugs" is a separate subject, and there a variety of polls that DO SHOW a majority support for allowing states to legalize drugs like marijuana. Feature: Zogby Poll Says Both Coasts Favor Letting States Legalize Marijuana -- What Is It Going To Take? Your example proves my point, in addition to showing how truly clueless you are regarding people's opinions. Quote:
Do you think blacks would be comfortable with a revote on slavery? Or equal rights? Voting on equal rights is unAmerican. Quote:
How is this victory "pyrrhic"? We've won, and there is no down-side. Unless you're going to try with that stupid "harm to marriage" rant, and you should know by now that just ends up with us asking you to prove your dumb-ass claim, and you looking like an idiot because all you can claim is that it's "change"... "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Why on earth do you keep bothering to try this ludicrous comparison with the civil rights movement? Even most black leaders oppose homosexual marriage. And the ban on inter-racial marriage did nothing to alter the fact that marriage is for one man and one woman | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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did garysher really imply that when people grow up they are no longer interested in sex? LOL maybe that's why he has nothing else to do in his life except rant and rave and whine and moan about gay people on the internet!!! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Still scared about a ballot in MA tinkerbelle? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Well in MA they do and it looks like it is going stick. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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You should really learn what the law says there before you lie and pretend it says something else. Quote:
You don't sign petitions to keep existing law. Quote:
We both know you have none. Specifically, HOW MANY of the Republicans of today were "hippies" in the 1960's? How many of the "hippies" of the 1960's are Republicans today? All you do, day in and day out, is make up crap. SOME opinions change. Have you ever stopped to figure out WHY the children of 1960 wouldn't think about allowing gay marriage, but the young voters of 2007 ARE thinking about it? Quote:
Just as you have read the response each time. Claiming that gays have an "equal right" to marry HETEROSEXUALLY is like outlawing Judaism and saying that Jews have an equal right to worship Christ as Christians do. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Nope. It is nothing at all like that and you know it. Marriage is a heterosexual institution! It is more like saying that Chinese citizens have an equal right to enjoy US citizenship!! How do you keep a straight face when you make these ludicrous comparisons!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| "In other words you have no idea how many people in MA oppose this attack on traditional marriage" What attack on trad. marriage? "Marriage is a heterosexual institution" Well gays ARE getting married. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Boston - VoteOnMarriage.org - the campaign to allow the voters to decide on the definition of marriage in Massachusetts - expressed outrage over today's Constitutional Convention vote on the Marriage Amendment citing the unrelenting pressure by Governor Patrick, House Speaker DiMasi and Senate President Therese Murray forcing some lawmakers to switch their positions on the issue during the 11th hour. "The Marriage Amendment won its first legislative vote and was on track to win its second with a healthy margin. The unprecedented pressure by leaders on Beacon Hill - the rumors of patronage jobs by Governor Patrick and arm-twisting by House Speaker DiMasi - derailed the largest initiative petition drive by citizens in the Commonwealth's history and this is a brutal loss for citizen-centered democracy," said Kris Mineau, president, Massachusetts Family Institute and spokesman, VoteOnMarriage.org. All three Beacon Hill leaders opposed the people's right to vote on marriage. Allegations of bribery by the Governor and arm twisting by the House Speaker as a means of pressuring legislators to switch their vote have been reported widely in the press in recent weeks. "The Governor and House Speaker have been unrelenting in fighting the natural course of advancement on the marriage amendment and the people's right to vote," said Mineau. "We will look very closely at the circumstances by which legislators switched their vote for ethics violations or improprieties." Citizens in 45 states have weighed in on the definition of marriage either through the legislative process or by constitutional amendments. VoteOnMarriage.org vows to continue the fight for the people of Massachusetts to be heard on this issue. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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