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Old 06-27-2007, 05:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Isn't that pretty much politicians in general now? If ever we needed an honest third party this is the time. We need someone who will avoid supporting either side of the abortion and gay rights issues and really run this country for a few years. As far as I'm concerned the last thing the president of this country should be worrying about right now is an indivual citizens rights and deal with the economic and international relations problems we have now.

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I couldnt really care what 2 consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own home.I do not care for Homosexuals particularly,though I do not think they should be discriminated against.I really do not care for the Homosexual marriage and or forced acceptance agenda that seems to be going on either.I just happen to believe that there are far more important issues to concentrate on.

A young person who knows my views on homosexuality cornered me the other day and said in their opinion I was a Homophobe.I pointed out that whilst I do not particularly like Homosexuality that I was pretty much neutral on the subject.It was then imparted to me that unless I accepted homosexuality I was indeed a homophobe.

Needless to say it was pretty much a waste of time trying to educate this youngster that there are no rules that say I have to accept anything that I do not wish to.

I informed this youngster that in my opinion we have not had a decent President in the last 45 years did that make me the following...

Bushophobic
Clintonophobic
DadyBushophobic
Reaganophobic
Carterophobic
Fordophobic
Nixonophobic
Johnsonophobic

Sort of gave them something to think about.I suppose my point is if someone is so ready to label me as a homophobe and someone else is so ready to label me as mentally ill because I am a supposed homophobe where does it all end?
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I do not care for Homosexuals particularly,though I do not think they should be discriminated against.
That is not homophobic attitude. However, your presidential analogy doesn't really work. There is no public popularity vote on whether or not Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, etc. are to be allowed to be ex-presidents. There HAVE been public popularity vote on the marriage rights of gay people.
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True a bad comparison but it was the best I could think of at the time.I suppose I was just trying to point out to them because I do not agree with something I do not deserve to automatically have a label placed on myself.
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True a bad comparison but it was the best I could think of at the time.I suppose I was just trying to point out to them because I do not agree with something I do not deserve to automatically have a label placed on myself.
Everybody else reading your posts knew what you were saying. It's just that some people are a bit sensitive and you have to be very careful how you word some thing. They can read between the lines on some things and can't read what actually written on some others.
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True a bad comparison but it was the best I could think of at the time.I suppose I was just trying to point out to them because I do not agree with something I do not deserve to automatically have a label placed on myself.
On the surface, I certainly agree with that .... though I don't know how you can disagree about somebody's existence.

If what you wrote is true - and that you don't advocate discrimination and support equal rights for gays - there is no way that can be considered homophobic.
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This is the problem that arises when we forget that words have meanings.

Homophobia is a mental disorder. It is the irrational fear of homosexuality. That is a true statement. I have no problems whatsoever with it.

The problem is that the word homophobia is so readily applied to anyone who oppose for homosexuality. For whatever the reason, whether it be based on religion, morality or the idea that homosexuals are asking and seeking for "special rights".

As long as we continue to label, this is the danger we face. How do we determine what is rational and what is irrational?

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I couldnt really care what 2 consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own home.I do not care for Homosexuals particularly,though I do not think they should be discriminated against.I really do not care for the Homosexual marriage and or forced acceptance agenda that seems to be going on either.I just happen to believe that there are far more important issues to concentrate on.

A young person who knows my views on homosexuality cornered me the other day and said in their opinion I was a Homophobe.I pointed out that whilst I do not particularly like Homosexuality that I was pretty much neutral on the subject.It was then imparted to me that unless I accepted homosexuality I was indeed a homophobe.

Needless to say it was pretty much a waste of time trying to educate this youngster that there are no rules that say I have to accept anything that I do not wish to.

I informed this youngster that in my opinion we have not had a decent President in the last 45 years did that make me the following...

Bushophobic
Clintonophobic
DadyBushophobic
Reaganophobic
Carterophobic
Fordophobic
Nixonophobic
Johnsonophobic

Sort of gave them something to think about.I suppose my point is if someone is so ready to label me as a homophobe and someone else is so ready to label me as mentally ill because I am a supposed homophobe where does it all end?
You do know there are is a large group of people who are asexual, meaning they do not have sex at all. Now we need to demonize these asexuals, especially when 2 live toghether, because we need more people to hate. That is the problem, we just do not have enough people to hate and desciminate against.
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This is the problem that arises when we forget that words have meanings.

Homophobia is a mental disorder. It is the irrational fear of homosexuality. That is a true statement. I have no problems whatsoever with it.

The problem is that the word homophobia is so readily applied to anyone who oppose for homosexuality. For whatever the reason, whether it be based on religion, morality or the idea that homosexuals are asking and seeking for "special rights".

As long as we continue to label, this is the danger we face. How do we determine what is rational and what is irrational?

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I am at a total loss for words. I don't think I have ever seen such an idiotic post.
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