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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago 'burbs Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,396 Country: ![]()
| It looks like this half-baked policy may finally be coming to an end. Could it actually happen while Bush is still the commander in chief? Oh, I don't know about that. Bush has shown repeatedly that he is indifferent to the will of the American people. But even if the Military Readiness Enhancement Act should fail this year, it will build momentum for the movement going into the election, and I expect it would yield results very early in the tenure of the next (probably Democrat) president. I urge you to write your Congressional representatives about the issue! -- A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released today shows 79% support for repealing the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” ban on lesbian, gay and bisexual service members. Only 18% of respondents thought lesbian and gay service personnel should not be allowed to serve openly. The CNN poll follows a 2005 Boston Globe poll also finding 79% support for repeal. That same poll found that large “majorities of Republicans, regular churchgoers, and even people with negative attitudes toward gays think gays and lesbians should be allowed to serve openly in the military.” A similar Gallup poll found 91% support for open service among Americans aged 18-29. A December 2006 Zogby poll found that 73% of troops surveyed are comfortable with lesbians and gays. The Military Readiness Enhancement Act (H.R. 1246), a Congressional proposal to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” is currently supported by a bi-partisan coalition of 127 lawmakers in the House of Representatives. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I always thought it was a silly policy. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| It always was, and still is. Remember, this is pretty much the first issue that Clinton got caught up in. It was a compromise measure. Clinton campaigned partly on allowing all citizens regardless of sexual orientation to serve openly in the military. Before that, there was a complete ban on those who are not heterosexual. It was a half-measure. Clinton really should have stuck to his guns, instead of trying to make everyone happy. So far, it has cost the taxpayers over $300 million in recruiting, training, legal costs, etc. Money that could have been spent a LOT more intelligently, in my opinion. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| A Funny Fellow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,660 Country: ![]()
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That was one of the deal-breakers for me and why I didn't extend my commission. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| It's a way out! Keep it! Live the Light, Give the Light, Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience. The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party: Stop the madness before us it stops! Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Partisan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,933 Country: ![]()
| The only way this ridiculous discriminatory law is abolished is if the gay rights leaders start advocating that gay people should NEVER serve in the military of a country that doesn't give them equal rights. There will be such a hoo-haw from the right wing, bitching that the gays won't pull their own weight and that they're cowards and traitors and unAmerican and unpatriotic and yada yada yada. They'll get rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell in half no time. The only way to get anything out of the mean-spirited right wing zealots is to REFUSE to do whatever is really wanted. The zealots will go out of their way to force gay people to do it! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Mexico Gender: ![]() Posts: 349 Country: ![]()
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We need to conquer that fear and serve anyway. It's a matter of principle. We would be better off showing that we are dedicated American's instead of dedicated activists. Service should not be about personal identity, it should be about group identity. We are American's. We are dedicated service men and women. The results of the military policy is becoming clear. DADT is pulling talented officers from the ranks, officers that the military can ill afford to lose during a time of war. Instead of robbing the military of these talented individuals, we should put more in. They can't get them all, and the more they get the dumber they look. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Partisan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,933 Country: ![]()
| um I was being facetious. ![]() *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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