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Old 09-14-2007, 05:34 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Not a very hard leap to make. Just change out the alcohol for sex. And even among heterosexuals, there are sexual disorder.

But among all sexual disfunction, the magic link is sex.
Among heterosexuals there are sexual addictions there are sexual addictions among homosexuals as well. In neither case is sexuality of the WHOLE group an addiction behavior.
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One is not an alcoholic until one consumes dangerous amounts of alcohol.

I didn't say that. I specifically said that "no one dies from alcoholism". What was the point of that sentence?

Since only about 60% of male homosexuals and 0% of lesbians practice anal sex, that leaves 70% of homosexuals who do not practice this "more dangerous" form of sex.

Do 100% of people die from alcoholism? I doubt it. So even among homosexuals and alcoholics they seem to control the more dangerous aspects of their "disorder.

Makes for a pretty weak analogy since 100% of alcoholics consume -- or have consumed if they have achieved sobriety -- too much alcohol.
Thats not true. As we have already pointed out, an alcoholic is obviously an alcoholic even before he drinks. Just as a person is gay even before they have actual sex.
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And how does that mean that homosexuality is any more intended than the other less tolerated sexual orientations? I don't see any "reason" for homosexuality as it relates to any species on the planet.

There is not always a why required to justify the things that we do. Tolerance is a subjective concept that is a function of dogma. Acceptance of homosexuality in Japanese history is plentiful. It was not until the western religious dogma invaded Japan did homosexuality become taboo.


But as we both know, homosexuality has been around from waay before that was a concern. Since there are other biologically sterile sexual urges, once again, that doesn't raise homosexuality above "disordered" either.

We also know that supposed heterosexuals partake in homosexual sex. Therefore, you can have your babies and fun on the DL too.
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There is not always a why required to justify the things that we do. Tolerance is a subjective concept that is a function of dogma. Acceptance of homosexuality in Japanese history is plentiful. It was not until the western religious dogma invaded Japan did homosexuality become taboo.

We both know there have been many thinks "accepted" in many cultures that have for one reason or another come to an end. I don't see why homosexuality is one that needs to be "reaccepted". I have yet to see another bastardized natural function such as homosexuality that we have accepted as "normal".

We also know that supposed heterosexuals partake in homosexual sex. Therefore, you can have your babies and fun on the DL too.
We also know that "humans" partake in a lot of strange and wierd sexual antics. Does that mean they are all "normal" too and need to be recognized as such. Or should they continue DADT? Homosexuality is fine "behind closed doors" but I don't want to see it taught in schools or on my television.
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Among heterosexuals there are sexual addictions there are sexual addictions among homosexuals as well. In neither case is sexuality of the WHOLE group an addiction behavior.
If the sexuality itself is a disorder, I don't see why it can't be considered an addictive behaviour.
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I didn't say that. I specifically said that "no one dies from alcoholism". What was the point of that sentence?
Of course they die from alcoholism. Are you suggesting that people who are not alcoholics die from the consumption of too much alcohol?

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Do 100% of people die from alcoholism? I doubt it. So even among homosexuals and alcoholics they seem to control the more dangerous aspects of their "disorder.

100% of alcoholics who do not get sober eventually suffer from serious physical illness due to their drinking.

Homosexuals do not need to abstain from having sex to avoid serious physical illness brought on by being homosexual.
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Thats not true. As we have already pointed out, an alcoholic is obviously an alcoholic even before he drinks. Just as a person is gay even before they have actual sex.

OK. So what do non-drinking alcoholics and celibate homosexuals have to do with absolutely anything in this thread?
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If the sexuality itself is a disorder, I don't see why it can't be considered an addictive behaviour.
Homosexuality is NOT a disorder, but I acknowledge that you and I disagree on that point and will leave it there.

That said...

Disorder and addiction are two entirely different things. Chemical imbalances are a disoerder, but they are by no means an addiction. Dysfunctional blood formations, lungs, kidneys, hearts etc., are disorders, but not addictions.
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Of course they die from alcoholism. Are you suggesting that people who are not alcoholics die from the consumption of too much alcohol?

Yes, they do. People die from drinking too much water at one time.
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100% of alcoholics who do not get sober eventually suffer from serious physical illness due to their drinking.

But again, not all of them suffer, just as we all know that not all people with homosexual leanings actually act upon those leanings. The same for the other less tolerated sexual urges.

Homosexuals do not need to abstain from having sex to avoid serious physical illness brought on by being homosexual.

Actually anal sex causes other disorders other than AIDS which not even a condom can help.
http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/?article=faq&refid=125
http://aids.about.com/od/otherconditions/a/analca.htm
So even among those practicing "safe sex" there's still a danger. And among those heterosexuals that practice it, most of those that initiate it are men, and we know how f'd up they are, and women who don't want to lose their virginity or get pregnant. Heterosexuals who use the sexual organs that we were given in monogamous relationships don't have anywhere near the same issues.

OK. So what do non-drinking alcoholics and celibate homosexuals have to do with absolutely anything in this thread?
Reread the rest of the forum and get back to me.
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Homosexuality is NOT a disorder, but I acknowledge that you and I disagree on that point and will leave it there.

That's good because that too is an idea that is very recent. And questionable.

Disorder and addiction are two entirely different things. Chemical imbalances are a disoerder, but they are by no means an addiction. Dysfunctional blood formations, lungs, kidneys, hearts etc., are disorders, but not addictions.
But the urge to continue in an orientation that has no real purpose and is proven to be a little risky might be considered an addiction. Just as heterosexual sexual addiction is.
Definition of addiction - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
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That's good because that too is an idea that is very recent. And questionable.
We gould go round and round on that, but it would be useless for this discussion.


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But the urge to continue in an orientation that has no real purpose and is proven to be a little risky might be considered an addiction. Just as heterosexual sexual addiction is.
Definition of addiction - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
All sexual contact is 'a little risky.' That is a reality... There is no qualification about 'purpose' in this word.

A better set of definitions exist here:

addiction - Definitions from Dictionary.com
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