Originally Posted by akuma

Why? What makes you think that homosexuals are any different that any other human with respect to desires, tastes, and prejudices? Homosexuals are found in every race and culture and come with all the prejudices that come with membership. I have particular tastes when it comes to the adult men I like to be with. Does this make me intolerant? No, it makes me "normal." I have encountered white racist homosexuals before. I did not experience their love of all homosexuals that evening. Are they "normal" in your view?

Actually, when you look at the history of this country, I'm surprised at how quickly we have eradicated a lot of the racism that was bred here. When you commit genocide of the indigenous cultures, and then import another entire culture as inferior, racism, hate, and fear are the natural result. I don't hate a racist white person. I hate the system that created them. But then again, I'd much rather be here than any other country so I owe a lot to my predecessors white and black who gave up so much so I can have what I have. Do I find a racist "normal"? No. But is he a "racist" or does he just not like black people? Because there may have been some incident in his life that made him that way. And it's very easy for some white people to just avoid black people.

And I agree about the desires and tastes. And again you can apply any sexual "orientation" to that part of that paragraph. I think it would be funny to meet a homophobic pedophile. It just seems strange that a community whose entire message is always "tolerance" seem to be so intolerant to anyone who disagrees with any part of their agenda.

With respect to the rape of animals, homosexuals can understand the difference between right and wrong. You want to label me as intolerant? Fine, I will accept your label with respect to animal rapists. This only shows that I am not one to blindly accept everything that is not "normal" in your world just because you do not perceive me as "normal."

But what makes sex with animals "rape". It's not "murder" when you eat an animal. It's not "kidnapping" when you take a puppy from it's mother. It's not "slavery" when you ride a horse. Why is sex with animals automatically "rape". That's obviously not true. Especially in the case of those that enjoy receptive intercourse from animals. As many homosexuals say, "why speak of something you don't know"? If that's what it takes for you to make zoophilia wrong in your mind, that's okay I guess. For me, it's the fact that a man wants to have sex with an animal in the first place that is wrong. "Rape" is secondary. Just as I think it's wrong for a human to want to have sex with their own gender. The actual sex is secondary to the abnormal instinct.

Okay, if the fears straight soldiers are that extreme, provide separate the showers for the gay and straight soldiers. However, the problem will not go away as there will be "undeclared" homosexuals still showering with heterosexuals. Better yet, give every soldier their own private shower. The problem is now solved. <sigh> Straight people are too obsessed about public bathing.

Fears??? Is it "fear" that gets women separate showers and facilities? I thought it was just decency and decorum.
I'm not afraid of a gay person, but I still want to be in control of who might be looking at me sexually. If someone wasnts to serve "openly" then that's just the way it is. Just like a woman would in the presence of men. Not every man wants that woman but it is up to her to control what person of the opposite gender sees her nude.

Now you have me concerned about that guy.

Originally Posted by fxashun

That was funny.

Good post by the way.

Originally Posted by Gadgetory

I agree fx I am glad that the people who went before us fought for equality amongst the races and genders in this country. And I blame the system that created sexist and or racist morons as well. Just as I blame the system for exlcuding people for no reason other then they give some people a wiggins...as is the case with homosexuals. They are excluded because they give people like you a wiggins more or less. You are part of a system that keeps apart a section of our society from full particiaption in society and have no issue in doing so just as white men kept women from voting for example. These men also felt that women where incapable of voting and participating fully in society and if they did society and the democratic system would be altered to the detriment of freedom. As such the US was one of the LAST countries in the Western World to grant women the right to vote. Heterosexual marriage will not be affected by extending marriage to gay people and if it is then the marriage was already doomed. And nothing you've said that I have read on this subject change that simple fact..gays give you a wiggins and instead of saying hey that is my problem not theirs you visit your issue upon them.

Heterosexual marriage will also not be effected if we allow people to marry pets. But we don't want that to happen either. And homosexuals weren't included in the constitution for several reasons, but mostly for the same reason there are no urinals in the womens room. They aren't necessary.

Sex with an animal is rape because they CANNOT give legal consent. Rape is defined by legal consent or lack thereof. Children, animals, certain people with limited mental capacity are thought to be UNABLE to give legal consent. It is that simple.