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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 10-06-2007, 07:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Everyone??

Including child molestors, serial killers and islamic jihadists??

OD I know you mean well but please consider the implications of what you are suggesting!!
Yikes!!! Is that what I said???

No way, Gary...old argument with you. And you have been defeated over and over again. Bait and switch won't even work this time around.

You always bring up perpetrators of crime, and that is so deficient an attempt to group people who are moral but of a different sexual orientation than that which you claim as your own.

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Old 10-06-2007, 07:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Again, people are resistant to embrace as normal any movement away from their own comfort zone of sexuality. Sexuality sure does seem to be a stickler for so many. And Garysher, it is my conclusion that you want to "pick a bone" with anyone who might make you realize your own vulnerable sexual orientation and identity.

I wish you well Garysher as you further pursue learning and growing and becoming the person you are meant to be, a person secure with his own being first, so that you might go on to embrace others with that same confidence and understanding.

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So it's my fault that these weirdos pretend they're women when they know they are men??

In your view this reveals some deep weakness about me??

How's life in topsy-turvy land OD ??
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Yikes!!! Is that what I said???

No way, Gary...old argument with you. And you have been defeated over and over again. Bait and switch won't even work this time around.

You always bring up perpetrators of crime, and that is so deficient an attempt to group people who are moral but of a different sexual orientation than that which you claim as your own.

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So when you said "everyone needs to be accepted" you didn't really mean "everyone".

You only meant everyone that YOU happen to think should be accepted.
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Rod, might I make a humble suggestion? Next time you have opportunity to meet a transgender person, ask them if they prefer to go by he or by she. Then you wouldn't feel the need to write the He/she to all you do disclose about your encounter with a transgender individual. I am just gonna betcha that the person that you are writing about does prefer to be identified by one gender or the other. In fact, so much so that this person even did have a very involved medical/surgical proceedure to secure that preferred identity.
I am also going to guess that this person has a first name that is a clue whether the desired identity is male or female.

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Actually he/she changed from one to the other. One moment it was his given name. The next it would be the female variation of his given name. At the point I met him/her he/she was seeing a female. Evidently the other method of sex did not work for him/her. Confusion best fit his/her situation for he/she wanted to be a full he again and no longer a she.
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I wonder if Jesus would have made all those tacky, nasty digs about his/her, he/she, him/her.

Somehow, I just doubt it.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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So when you said "everyone needs to be accepted" you didn't really mean "everyone".

You only meant everyone that YOU happen to think should be accepted.

No, everyone does indeed and with unfeigned love, mean everyone.

Crime is unacceptable, but people are acceptable.

I wonder, Garysher, how many crimes may have been averted if the people committing them would have been accepted.

I am sure you consider the idea that one must warn folk to clean up their lives and live righteously. I wonder if that warning was meant to come in the form of an embrace, instead of some judgemental sermon.

And no, I do not believe all crime would be averted, but how much could be?

I embrace you as a fellow traveller on life's path Garysher, but your sputtering meanness is unacceptable to me.

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So it's my fault that these weirdos pretend they're women when they know they are men??

In your view this reveals some deep weakness about me??

How's life in topsy-turvy land OD ??
How about looking at the links I provided for you to study, Garysher?

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Actually he/she changed from one to the other. One moment it was his given name. The next it would be the female variation of his given name. At the point I met him/her he/she was seeing a female. Evidently the other method of sex did not work for him/her. Confusion best fit his/her situation for he/she wanted to be a full he again and no longer a she.
Rod, do you think you are being comical?

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I wonder if Jesus would have made all those tacky, nasty digs about his/her, he/she, him/her.

Somehow, I just doubt it.
Nah, He just simply told it like it was.


Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Crosswalk - Devotionals, Christian Music, Family, Christian News, Forums & more

HE also suffered the consquences of telling the truth. See the wicked did not like that. They wanted HIM dead.

1 Corinthians 6 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

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Nah, He just simply told it like it was.


Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Crosswalk - Devotionals, Christian Music, Family, Christian News, Forums & more

HE also suffered the consquences of telling the truth. See the wicked did not like that. They wanted HIM dead.

1 Corinthians 6 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

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Interesting though, Rod...Jesus was talking to/about religious people. The ones that made a whole heck of alot of judgment calls out of The Book.

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