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I can understand G and L but why B and T?

Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 10-08-2007, 11:39 AM   #61 (permalink)
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If the surgery was successful, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Well, even if that particular "she" had been born a woman, she just wasn't my type to begin with. She was a totally prissy "city girl" type.

So, getting to the point of deciding how, um, succesful, the surgery had been was never even an issue with her. She was just somebody fun to hang out with.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:03 PM   #62 (permalink)
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think she looks like she was ever a man?
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yeah, right

tell me you wouldn't do that drop dead gorgeous trannie on "Dirty Sexy Money" that is Adam Baldwin's girlfriend.
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If the surgery was successful, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Surely plastic can never be that realistic
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Please re-read this thread, Garysher. There are a number of answers to your question.

And your sanctimonious facade is shot to heck by your use of words like weirdo and even indecisive and confused.

OhDear

Are you saying you don't think that bisexuals are indecisive and "transgendered" individuals are not confused?

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think she looks like she was ever a man?
No.

But the point is, if I KNEW she had been... I'm not sure I could get past that.

(Besides, she's blonde. And outside of Gwen Stefani, Blondes don't do much for me.)
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One interesting story I saw along these lines on some documentary or another I once watched. Two women fell in love as lesbians. But one of them had always felt "wrong" as a woman, and went ahead and was sex-changed into a man.

And her/his partner stuck with her/him. They got married and are raising a child together.

If nothing else, that shows a very high level of commitment, IMO.
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One interesting story I saw along these lines on some documentary or another I once watched. Two women fell in love as lesbians. But one of them had always felt "wrong" as a woman, and went ahead and was sex-changed into a man.

And her/his partner stuck with her/him. They got married and are raising a child together.

If nothing else, that shows a very high level of commitment, IMO.
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Are you saying you don't think that bisexuals are indecisive and "transgendered" individuals are not confused?

Please give reasons for your answers.
Indecision makes for a foregone conclusion that choice is involved in one's sexual orientation. I would say that the only choice folks have concerning sexuality is whether or not to do it...

As to confusion, it is grievous that if anyone is confused they are automatically labelled as "weirdos"...if someone has a cleft palate and seeks medical remedy, do you count them confused in advance of the surgery when they deliberate the risks involved in the surgery or the social risks of leaving it as is?

Garysher, have you never been confused about anything?

And further, did you read the links I provided about man and woman according to the Creation Account I am sure you embrace as God creating man and then woman from man?

If someone can be born with a cleft palate or a hole in the heart, why do you not think that they could be born with the brain/mind of one sex and the body of the other? And sure, that would be a difficult condition that would render one confused. But society's intolerance is mean and unconscienable. Thank God for medical research that has found in some way, a help...

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One interesting story I saw along these lines on some documentary or another I once watched. Two women fell in love as lesbians. But one of them had always felt "wrong" as a woman, and went ahead and was sex-changed into a man.

And her/his partner stuck with her/him. They got married and are raising a child together.

If nothing else, that shows a very high level of commitment, IMO.
Not necessarily Mytie...it is possible that they stayed together out of a co-dependence. Then again, maybe not. What became of the child? How long ago was this?

I do know of women who married gay men, only to find out after years of marriage, that the man was gay. Some stay, some do not. Here is a huge issue though that I would have in such a case as that...fidelity.

If both marital partners are faithful in every way, it is possible that they love each other in a way that is healthy and they can maintain a commitment?

Then again...it would take a whole lot of confidence for a woman not to second guess her husband's thought life in such an experience as that.

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