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Old 10-15-2007, 09:57 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Much to your discredit Garysher, you don't even know what reason and self-control are. Oh sure, you think you exhibit control, but your words are dripping with provocation and downright meanness. You care nothing to truly debate. And even though you shroud your perverse desire to rile folk up in some fundamental worldview, you really don't even give one hoot how the world really goes.


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Wow thanks OD

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Yeah... I did feel pretty mean myself, writing that. And truly I am sorry but sometimes you gotta remember the verse in the bible that says that the wounds of a friend are more faithful than the kiss of an enemy.

So with that, perhaps you can count me a friend.


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Yeah... I did feel pretty mean myself, writing that. And truly I am sorry but sometimes you gotta remember the verse in the bible that says that the wounds of a friend are more faithful than the kiss of an enemy.

So with that, perhaps you can count me a friend.


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No offence taken OD you know me by now, infact I thought it was very well written.

Let's cyber kiss and make up!
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Kiss-kiss...

Well the problem with all this is that the topic is being trumped by personality conflicts here.

Now the way I see it, though I have on many issues found alignment with Tristan, I do not see this example as one that shows the hate crime law is working. And Tristan, I do believe there is a valid place for a hate crime law, but this case does not clearly demonstrate to me, at least, how it worked here. In fact, I find it exposes areas that are amiss with the hate crime law, as it was even applied to this case.

So shouldn't we get back to the topic at hand?

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Well the problem with all this is that the topic is being trumped by personality conflicts here.
Noooo! Say it isn't so !

This has never happened before?
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Kiss-kiss...

Well the problem with all this is that the topic is being trumped by personality conflicts here.

Now the way I see it, though I have on many issues found alignment with Tristan, I do not see this example as one that shows the hate crime law is working. And Tristan, I do believe there is a valid place for a hate crime law, but this case does not clearly demonstrate to me, at least, how it worked here. In fact, I find it exposes areas that are amiss with the hate crime law, as it was even applied to this case.

So shouldn't we get back to the topic at hand?

OhDear
I agree with you as regards this case. I read elsewhere that the jurors were not convinced that it was a hate crime. But because of the way the charges were brought -- or perhaps the way the way the law in their state is written -- they were forced to either convict the defendant of manslaughter as a hate crime or acquit him.

I know that in some states any hate crime charge is a separate charge. The jury is then free to find the defendant guilty of the one charge -- in this case manslaughter -- without being bound to also convict on the hate crime charge.

This seems to me to be a more reasonable way of constructing the statutes because the jury would not be so bound by the whims of those in the prosecutor's office.

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