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11-02-2007, 04:57 PM
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What I am getting to is he or his partner had no right in this case.I asked him to write a living will making his partner the one to make the desisions about his medical care and he had a appt to do so but he turned ill before it could be done.He died with the one person that really cared for him sitting in the waiting room alone | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-02-2007, 05:23 PM
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| Sorry I went off the thread somewhat. Or maybe I didn't.This is only one of many cases of what happens to the gay/lesbian coummity for many years. Do you really think we would got through things like this if we could help it,and its going on in the land of the free.You say we have rights...........It wouldn't happen to you I bet | |||||||||||||||||||||
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11-02-2007, 10:44 PM
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But as you pointed out he could have drawn up a will giving his homosexual partner visitation rights and decision making power ahead of his family. He had the right to do that so it's not really a rights issue. Clearly he put his own interests and those of his partner ahead of the feelings of his family, including the mother who brought him into the world. Now his family have to live with the consequences  | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-05-2007, 01:46 AM
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 Now back to what we were talking about. Yes he had the right to draw up a living will and yes that may have let his partner be by his side at the end but I must ask you this,why should he have to do this if you don't?iIf it were you in that bed would they have the right to sent your partner away? If the answer is no then why did they have the right to send his partner away?Also if your family did not like the person you were in love with would you chose to give that person up? I am a mother of 2 wonderful sons,one of witch has giving me 3 lovely grandbabies.I have never gotten in the way of who they have loved.I may not like them but as long as they treat my sons with love and respect its not my place to say anything.If they love my sons then we have at least that much in common.I have never turned my back on my children for anything they have done that I thought was wrong. Its there life and I will not be cut out of there life becouse they don't live it the way I see fit. The way I see it the only consequneces the family have to live with is that they did not give there son his dieing wish. That they will have to live with for the rest of there life. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-05-2007, 07:28 AM
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11-05-2007, 12:11 PM
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How sad he caused them such pain and hurt by pursuing his homosexual yearnings and completely disregarded their feelings. But why is any of this a reason to redefine marriage. That would be like reducing marriage to some kind of legal convenience instead of the sacred union of a man and a woman. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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11-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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11-07-2007, 02:10 PM
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11-07-2007, 02:17 PM
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| Marriage has been being redefined every since it was a contract between two men conveying goods for other goods (a woman) - and a man could have as many of these contracts as he could afford. The rules and restrictions about who can and can't marry have been being redefined and refined and changed since then. It was only 60 years ago when Germany declared that Jews were not able to be legally married. It has barely been a century in this country that interracial marriages have been legal - though many still find them repugnant. There are still religions which will not allow divorce - or for their members to marry outside their faith. This is just another refinement in an institution that has been being redefined for thousands of years. That which does not evolve will stagnate and rot. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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11-07-2007, 02:29 PM
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Marriage is a legal contract for many straight people alread. Would you try and get into this century will you and stop whining like a fish mongersr wife. Convienient I think that marriage is a sacred union until 50% of people get divorced which is a decidedly secular and legal status/act.. And you straight guys talking about gay people all day everyday makes me wonder wants in your spank bank..its just weird | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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