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Old 11-14-2007, 11:09 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Actually biology of nearly every living animal on the planet too care of that "vote" by giving a reason/purpose/result to heterosexuality. Homosexuality has none. It's just no different than masturbation in that it only relieve sexual tension but never serves any othereal purpose. People can get the same result from formed latex.

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Okay, but sersiously.. .the "how could you tell somebody was really queer anyway" point is an interesting one.

I CAN see some people claiming to be gay after the fact.. just to raise a stink and try to get some compensation.

After all, some people do fake disability in order to get benifits... why not fake being queer?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:48 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Okay, but sersiously.. .the "how could you tell somebody was really queer anyway" point is an interesting one.

I CAN see some people claiming to be gay after the fact.. just to raise a stink and try to get some compensation.

After all, some people do fake disability in order to get benifits... why not fake being queer?
Exactly.

And even if someone IS homosexual, and declares so on their application, how can they prove that they were dismissed for that reason, instead of a business or performance issue?

If employers ask candidates to disclose their homosexuality on an application form, and they still proceed to hire them, how can that person later claim they were fired because they were homosexual??

Clearly they would never have been hired in the first place ifthe employer was "bigoted" against homosexuals.

This is another one of those goofy PC bills that would become a feeding fest for law school grads and yet another red flag for employers.

It makes more sense NOT to hire homosexuals at all and so avoid the risk of malicious or frivolous litigation.

Old 11-14-2007, 12:04 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Exactly.

And even if someone IS homosexual, and declares so on their application, how can they prove that they were dismissed for that reason, instead of a business or performance issue?

If employers ask candidates to disclose their homosexuality on an application form, and they still proceed to hire them, how can that person later claim they were fired because they were homosexual??

Clearly they would never have been hired in the first place ifthe employer was "bigoted" against homosexuals.

This is another one of those goofy PC bills that would become a feeding fest for law school grads and yet another red flag for employers.

It makes more sense NOT to hire homosexuals at all and so avoid the risk of malicious or frivolous litigation.

Any manager who has managed minorites, be it gender or race, in a corporate situation, will tell you that firing one of them is a pain in the ass. I've seen it. Even if it's an egregious act, there is a crazy amount of accountability to try and avoid the possible lawsuit.
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Exactly.

And even if someone IS homosexual, and declares so on their application, how can they prove that they were dismissed for that reason, instead of a business or performance issue?

If employers ask candidates to disclose their homosexuality on an application form, and they still proceed to hire them, how can that person later claim they were fired because they were homosexual??

Clearly they would never have been hired in the first place ifthe employer was "bigoted" against homosexuals.

This is another one of those goofy PC bills that would become a feeding fest for law school grads and yet another red flag for employers.

It makes more sense NOT to hire homosexuals at all and so avoid the risk of malicious or frivolous litigation.
There is that possibility that a poor performer could sue on the grounds that he was fired because he is gay. As frivolous as his case may be, it will still cost the company a fuckload of money in lawyers fees.
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I think our resident hypocrites could benefit from this marvellous "diversity training", it may help them deal with their tolerance issues.
I doesn't work in reverse. If you're a minority, subscribe to some silly-ass religion, or are gay, than you will always be the victim. That's really what "diversity training" is all about.

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I doesn't work in reverse. If you're a minority, subscribe to some silly-ass religion, or are gay, than you will always be the victim. That's really what "diversity training" is all about.
You are so right - bigotry and intolerance only travel in one direction according to certain groups.

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You are so right - bigotry and intolerance only travel in one direction according to certain groups.

How's everything in Baghdad tonight? Do you plan to visit Saddam's grave in Tikrit whilst you're over there?

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Had a huge bomb explode a few blocks away this morning (see the BOOM thread). Tonight all I hear is the usual pop-pop-pop gunfire in the distance, helicopters overhead every 10 minutes or so, and a lot of sirens - just a normal night in Baghdad.

No plans to go to Tikrit.
Old 11-14-2007, 12:26 PM   #70 (permalink)
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You are so right - bigotry and intolerance only travel in one direction according to certain groups.

How's everything in Baghdad tonight? Do you plan to visit Saddam's grave in Tikrit whilst you're over there?

If so can you get me a T shirt?
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